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Old 07-02-2009, 11:30 PM   #1
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Can California's budget crisis be fixed?

California's Budget Crisis: Is There a Way Out? - TIME



"Conservatives view the budget crisis as an opportunity to slash California's spending back to the level it had reached 10 years ago. "Gross overspending and fiscal irresponsibility will not be tolerated by the people of California," says Senate Republican Leader Dennis Hollingsworth. Liberals, however, see this as an attack by the right on the public infrastructure that helped make California an economic giant, and an act of war against the poor and minority populations in particular.

Conservatives claim California is a high tax state. In fact, California's taxes are similar to other high-tech, industrial states. According to the non-partisan Legislative Analyst Office and the Tax Foundation, California has comparatively high sales taxes and rates for corporate income, but very low property taxes. State income taxes are very progressive, with a large proportion of revenue comes from households earning more than $100,000, as well as from taxes on stock options and capital gains. Low-income households, meanwhile, face lower tax rates that in most other states. This tax system, says Steve Peace, director of finance under Gov. Gray Davis, "worked in a highly leveraged, supercharged economy. Those days are gone."

The state's finances could be made more stable by raising income taxes on middle and low-income families — which would reduce the state's dependency on volatile stock and capital gains income — a big reason for the current catastrophic deficits. But that is all but politically impossible in California

Is there a solution to California's dilemma? A number of reforms are receiving attention. On the tax and budget side, these include eliminating the need for a two-thirds majority vote on budget and tax matters and instituting a split-roll for property taxes that would allow homeowners to continue to pay according to the low rates mandated by Proposition 13, but require commercial property to be assessed at market value. To relieve the logjam in California politics, momentum is growing for an open primary system, in which the two top vote getters in the primary, regardless of party, would face each other in the general election. Proponents believe it would loosen the grip of partisan ideologies and make it easier of moderates to win elections. In addition, a redistricting reform won narrow approval last November and proponents of good government keep trying to lengthen the state's term limits on legislators."
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Old 07-03-2009, 01:24 PM   #2
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send the illegal immigrants home (I would LOVE to know the cost to educate them in Spanish). Get all those Hollywood types to do a fundraiser
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Old 07-03-2009, 01:49 PM   #3
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Re: The original question. No. California's problems are hopeless. Therefore, I propose the rest of us dig a deep trench along the entire eastern border of the state, snap it off, then push it out to sea where it can sink or swim on its own. It can either disappear into the murky depths, or, survive to establish a sovereign nation that would undoubtedly one day have nuclear missiles aimed at mainland U. S.
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Old 07-03-2009, 01:55 PM   #4
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I don't know.

I kind of like this.

"To relieve the logjam in California politics, momentum is growing for an open primary system, in which the two top vote getters in the primary, regardless of party, would face each other in the general election. Proponents believe it would loosen the grip of partisan ideologies and make it easier of moderates to win elections."
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Old 07-03-2009, 01:57 PM   #5
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Re: The original question. No. California's problems are hopeless. Therefore, I propose the rest of us dig a deep trench along the entire eastern border of the state, snap it off, then push it out to sea where it can sink or swim on its own. It can either disappear into the murky depths, or, survive to establish a sovereign nation that would undoubtedly one day have nuclear missiles aimed at mainland U. S.
That would create jobs and not tie our fates to the whims of people like Tom Coburn R-OK. I like it!

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"To relieve the logjam in California politics, momentum is growing for an open primary system, in which the two top vote getters in the primary, regardless of party, would face each other in the general election. Proponents believe it would loosen the grip of partisan ideologies and make it easier of moderates to win elections."
Newsom vs Brown IS the general election. The Republicans have no one who can beat either of them.
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Old 07-03-2009, 02:23 PM   #6
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I would vote for each of those "fixes" mentioned in the Time excerpt. Open primaries, split property tax rolls, plus getting rid of the 2/3rds requirement... these changes would go a long way to ensuring that the majority voice is followed.
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Old 07-03-2009, 05:45 PM   #7
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"getting rid of the 2/3 rds requirement"
this is the key to solving the gridlock in Sacramento. Can you imagine what would happen if budgets in Congress could not be passed unless approved by 2/3 of it's members? Talk about the tyranny of the minority!
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:13 PM   #8
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No kidding, meloparkmom.
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