geeps20

a bill to insure the uninsured...supposedly...yet 25 million Americans will remain uncovered...yup, the worst bill ever. Too bad our elected officials will blindly vote for whatever Pulosi throws in front of them. Is this really how we want this country run?

FarmDad

When they cut physician fees by 22%, that is who will be left to treat us when we are receiving Medicare.

Kajon

Here is a Republican response to the health care bill claiming that it creates 111 new bureaucracies. A Democratic source says this is an exaggeration and instead calls them "demonstration projects" The truth is probably somewhere in between, but yikes....this is a lot of new programs to manage!

RAW DATA: GOP List of New 'Bureaucracies' in House Health Care Bill - FOXNews.com

(I love # 4)

littlegreenmom

Oxymoron, much?

That is funny. Come on CC posters, raise your hand if you think that all this bureaucracy is going to make going to the doctor easier, or harder? Cheaper, or more expensive?

I am just impressed that they fit 111 new types of bureaucracy in a 2000 page document. That ought to win some sort of prize, don't you think?

BuddyMcAwesome

there should be a law saying that each law must fit in size 12pt font on the front and back of an 8.5 by 11 in. paper. If it goes over that, you have to vote for it as two separate bills.

littlegreenmom

I like it, Buddy.

Works for me.

poetgrl

personally, I'm expecting it to all go swimmingly. I can't imagine anything I'm more interested in than having a government beauracracy or 500 between me and some medical attention. I'm relieved, really, to understand that the bread-line approach we are currently seeing vis-a-vis the swine flu vaccine will now be available in all forms of medical interactions.

Medicare turns down twice as many procedures as the evil insurance companies....

Has anyone spoken to any doctors? I wonder why the only doctors I hear speaking are the ones opposed to the current plan(s)? I wonder why nobody cares about this?

BuddyMcAwesome

My dad's a doctor and he hates the health care bill. He said to me that the best cours of action would be to encourage more MSA's, HRA's, and FSA's. Basically these are insurance programs where all you to is pay the insurance company to negotiate better prices for you, but they cannot deny you coverage because you pay for your bills out of your own pocket. It makes Healthcare more like the free market and encourages competition.

CIA

CNN ran an interesting feature re: bill size. Social Security was 64 pages. The Civil Rights Act was 8 pages. The Emancipation Proclamation was 5 pages. And the Declaration of Independence was, of course, 1 page.

BuddyMcAwesome

maybe the one page front and back was an exaggeration but something like 10 pgs max should be it. If it has more than that then the bill is too complicated to begin with. Government needs to become simpler.

Hunt

This is an attractive idea, but unfortunately, it is nonsense. Government is complicated in a country with hundreds of millions of people. If you simplify legislation, all you will do is ensure that executive branch regulations will have to get even more complicated in order to put the legislation into force. The end result is that you will have even less say in what the actual laws are.

BuddyMcAwesome

I'm not saying that longer than 10 page bills should never be made, I'm just saying that each 10 pgs must be voted on separately to ensure that all congressman actually READ the bill and know what they're getting us into.

poetgrl

I think saying that goverment is complicated and needs 2000 page bills is obsfucation. We all know that all the pork and pet spending projects and protections for special interests and all sorts of things which have got nothing whatsoever to do with a particular bill are piled into these things. Legislation should be clear and direct and uncomplicated because otherwise it's all just a bunch of misleading junk. And I mean this in regard to both parties, btw, and "transparency" was one of the main reasons I campaigned for our current dissembler-in-chief.

BuddyMcAwesome

^I know I didn't tell YOU so, but I told a lot of people just like you so.

poetgrl

Well, I don't know that the alternative was that McAwesome, either, Buddy. But, "Let me be clear" you know all those angry independents they're talking about right now? I'm pretty sick of both parties.