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11-05-2009, 08:50 PM
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#16 | | Senior Member
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upset with us being in Iraq and Afghanistan
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but what do i know?
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11-05-2009, 08:51 PM
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geeps, it said he was unstable and was upset about being deployed. Why the hell would he spend over 20 years in the army if it was just so that he could kill people on American soil? Why wait so long?
It said he was distressed about being deployed. Perhaps he just snapped. It doesn't matter, no matter what his reason, people's hatred of Islam will forever cloud this, no matter what the TRUE reason is.
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11-05-2009, 08:51 PM
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so him being a Muslim doesn't enter into the equation at all? Shouldn't even be mentioned? Is that seriously what some of you are saying?
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11-05-2009, 08:53 PM
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Why the hell would he spend over 20 years in the army if it was just so that he could kill people on American soil?
| he entered long before 9/11...obviously his Muslim faith played a huge factor...to not even consider this is being naive.
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11-05-2009, 08:54 PM
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all muslims want to kill americans and we should outlaw them from the military
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11-05-2009, 08:55 PM
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^ typical....avoid the issue
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11-05-2009, 08:57 PM
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since most of the people we're fighting are muslim, why should we trust muslims to kill the enemy and not us?
11/5 never forget
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11-05-2009, 09:03 PM
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I don't know. Why did we allow Germans, Hungarians, etc to fight in WWII? Heck, why didn't we just ban all Christians? Makes sense, no?
My grandpa had to bomb his own home village. Guess what? People fight against their homeland all the time. There is a reason they are here and fighting in OUR military and not in their ancestral homeland.
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11-05-2009, 09:12 PM
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Fox is interviewing someone who worked with Hasan, and from the sound of it, his religion definitely played a part in this event. You probably won't hear this in the MSM, but the commentary is very interesting. Hasan apparently did not want to go to Afghanistan, and he said that Muslim (him) should not be pitted against Muslim. He made a number of very "off" remarks in the past few years, it seems. This man's religion is highly relevant to this set of events. Anyone who says otherwise is being either naive, politically correct, or just blind.
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11-05-2009, 09:17 PM
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^ Or we're going to wait to hear it from more than one news source before we think it is fact.
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11-05-2009, 09:20 PM
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^ The source was a colonel who heard those words spoken...I guess many here will never get the news if they only watch certain news stations.
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11-05-2009, 09:27 PM
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^ Shooter's not dead, contrary to many reports.
This is why I don't believe everything I hear right away.
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11-05-2009, 09:28 PM
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Well, I'm sure if it is true then eventually it will make its way into the news simply because right now the MSM is very sensitive to being percieved as being biased. I think that the shooter in the holocaust Museum had his hatred of Jews brought into the equation, which is logical. I actually think McViegh may have been a Christian fundamentalist????? Is this true? I'm not certain. As for whether or not a shooter on a military base was a muslim having trouble with the idea of going to war against other muslims? I think that's relevent. Why would it not be?
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11-05-2009, 09:30 PM
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I believe the shooter's anti-war sentiment and poor performance review are much more responsible for this shooting than his religion, according to what I have read so far.
However, his religious views could have influenced his anti-war sentiment...
Which came first - the chicken or the egg, here?
According to one of the spokesmen, he recently converted to Muslim. However, who knows?
I am sure that data will come out in the days and weeks to come. I just heard Hasan was not killed, but wounded.
How sad that these soldiers were sitting ducks, and could not carry weapons on base. Perhaps if they had access to their sidearms, they may have stopped him before this much damage.
Why would you send a mental health doc on deployment with a poor performance record? Doesn't that seem odd to everyone? How could that doc help others in a war zone, if they have issues, themselves?
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11-05-2009, 09:30 PM
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not dead...excellent...I guess he will have to wait for his 7 virgins
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