Shooting at Fort Hood--Why is it played down that the shooter was Islamic? - Page 4

catahoula · 11-05-2009, 09:54 PM

The Houston Chronicle might very well be wrong but, if they are, it won't be because they have a tendency to pile on alongside Fox.

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WASHINGTON — Federal law enforcement officials say the suspected Fort Hood, Texas, shooter had come to their attention at least six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats.

The officials say the postings appeared to have been made by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, who was killed during the shooting incident that left least 11 others dead and 31 wounded. The officials say they are still trying to confirm that he was the author. They say an official investigation was not opened.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case.

One of the Web postings that authorities reviewed is a blog that equates suicide bombers with a soldier throwing himself on a grenade to save the lives of his comrades.

"To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause," said the Internet posting. "Scholars have paralled (sic) this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers."

poetgrl · 11-05-2009, 09:55 PM

And Roman-- while I am very sorry for your loss, I can say that I lost several very close friends in the 9/11 attacks. All of them had children. One of them left his widow behind with 7 children, in fact. It's been tragic from the get go.

romanigypsyeyes · 11-05-2009, 09:56 PM

I am very sorry for your loss as well. Just as I am sorry for all of the people who died today. I am not defending this man, I am saying reserve judgment. In fact, I think I'm the only one who DIDN'T have a knee jerk reaction. I just prefer to work off of facts rather than speculation.

poetgrl · 11-05-2009, 10:02 PM

okay. Work off the facts....The question is "why is it not being reported?" But, the truth is it IS being reported, unsurprisingly, because we all know it is relevent information. I, too, have friends who are muslims, but every one of them will tell you that the extremists elements want you dead and the sooner the better. Every one of them left their countries of origin because the countries are RUN by the exremists elements..... A woman from the U.S cannot even begin to comprehend how these women live. It is beyond our imagination and so we say, "Well, it's only the extremists." In those countries, the liberal muslims would stand by while they whipped a woman for drinking a beer. This is not a joking matter, and I really don't understand why the far left, the party of "human rights" is not up in arms about these things. DAILY.

romanigypsyeyes · 11-05-2009, 10:07 PM

I am against fundamentalist Islam. I have worked with UNICEF to help girls (those in child marriages) in extremist countries. All I said was that we should wait until facts came out before he was instantly judged.

jazzymom · 11-05-2009, 10:07 PM

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You think the colonel was lying?...or did your news stations not interview him?

No, I am not saying the colonel is lying about what he heard Hasan say. I'm saying that because Fox runs that interview at 3:30 p.m. or whenever doesn't mean that the other networks should immediately start quoting it and relying on it without trying to verify it on their own or without it coming from some more official investigative source. At the press conference, reporters tried to get the Lt. Colonel being interviewed to speculate about motive and he refused to do so.

If it turns out that the comments from the colonel Fox interviewed are verified and become part of the investigation, and an acknowledged reason or partial reason for the shootings, then Fox has achieved what's known in the business as a "scoop." And they should get credit for it.

But you can't expect all media to immediately jump on that info without being able to verify it on their own. I'm talking about the comments providing a Muslim-related motivation for the shootings, not just that he is a Muslim. Again, it's hard to see the relevance of mentioning the shooter's religion as the story first came out WITHOUT the tie-in to motivation provided by that interview Fox had.

zoosermom · 11-05-2009, 10:12 PM

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doesn't mean that the other networks should immediately start quoting it and relying on it without trying to verify it on their own or without it coming from some more official investigative source

You're exactly right. And that's the bottom line. Why was Fox the only station asking that question? Actually it wasn't the only one asking. It just took a while.

poetgrl · 11-05-2009, 10:18 PM

These women live like prisoners and slaves in thier own homes and are denied even the basic human rights of going to the bathroom without permission, denied drinking water, denied access to thier children, denied the freedom to travel without a male relative. Denied the right to work, even if they have no means of support. Amnesty international would fight tooth and nail to get a prisoner released from a prison which treated anyone the way women are regularly treated in these places, and yet???? What? Why the tolerance of intolerance and slavery and imprisoning women in their own home. Any smart feminist would ask herself if it wasn't because it was ONLY happening to the women. And yet we would scream about the Christain Fundamentalist who would like his college educated daughter with a masters degree to marry another Christain. We are skewed.

romanigypsyeyes · 11-05-2009, 10:20 PM

poetgrl, why are you continuing this? No one is fighting you. I am 100% on your side. We all know that it is skewed. The problem is putting every single middle Easterner in that category.

coureur · 11-05-2009, 10:22 PM

>>Shooting at Fort Hood--Why is it played down that the shooter was Islamic?<<

Huh? I have yet to hear a news report that DIDN'T mention he is a Muslim. NPR, NBC.. all of them. Nobody is hiding the ball here.

>>It's enough now. Enough and more than enough. How many Americans to be murdered? How many Muslim women have to be killed in the name of honor (where's the thread about that gorgeous woman run down like a dog by her father) before we get honest. No more.<<

No more what? No more Muslims? What is your solution to this problem? Are you proposing to outlaw a religion?

zoosermom · 11-05-2009, 10:22 PM

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why are you continuing this?

Because she is frustrated, angry and fed up. As am I.

romanigypsyeyes · 11-05-2009, 10:24 PM

^ I understand that completely but it has nothing to do with this thread. Perhaps a new thread should be made if you want to discuss that? Serious request, not attacking.

zoosermom · 11-05-2009, 10:25 PM

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No more what?

Did you not read the first line of the post? Here it is:

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It's beyond outrageous that we continue to pretend that there isn't a problem with Islam.

To answer your question: no more pretending there isn't a problem with Islam. Clear?

zoosermom · 11-05-2009, 10:26 PM

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I understand that completely but it has nothing to do with this thread. Perhaps a new thread should be made if you want to discuss that? Serious request, not attacking.

That's not for you to say. Poetgrl's comments are within TOS and appropriate to the thread. If you're feeling disturbed by the frustration expressed here, perhaps you should stay away from it. Not attacking, just suggesting.

coureur · 11-05-2009, 10:27 PM

>>To answer your question: no more pretending there isn't a problem with Islam. Clear? <<

So what does "not pretending" consist of? What are we going to do differently under the law to solve this problem?