Bay

I'm pro-choice as well and think funding for abortions should not be made with taxpayer funds, out of respect for the various religious beliefs of American taxpayers. (I am not religious, btw).

vicariousparent

-even if the privately paid premiums are used to pay for the abortion.

The dems should work to make abortion more available. The dems should make it legal for US military personnel abroad to get abortions from military healthcare facilities. Instead they just throw women under the bus. Along with the gays.

This would not have happened with President Hillary.

Bay

^Sounds like a logical role for a private pro-choice charitable organization.

LogicWarrior

ok the private thing is ridiculous, if you're against abortion you can just buy a private plan that doesn't have abortion funding.

vicariousparent

The Hindus think cows are sacred and they worship cows. Out of respect for their religious beliefs, should we forbid taxpayer dollars to go towards paying for beef served to our military personnel?

Bay

^No. Killing cows =/= killing a human fetus.

vicariousparent

^ Some Hindus would probably argue that it is more horrific to kill a cow than to kill a human fetus. Lots of Hindus abort their own fetuses but would never dream of killing a cow.

I think religion has no right to dictate public policy.

It is a slippery slope when you allow the Catholic bishops to dictate the details of a health care bill. That is what happened today. It is wrong to let the Mormon church get involved in the gay marriage battles. These churches should have their tax exempt status taken away if they are going to lobby so openly in the political arena.

romanigypsyeyes

Because you're probably going to pay at least 18 years of welfare for that kid... cheaper for the abortion IMO.

However, since it's allowed for rape, I honestly foresee an increase in rape allegations (whether true or untrue).

I was very angry at the Dems for giving in on that point.

thegroogruxking

...that was joke right?

romanigypsyeyes

Nope.
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PrincipalV

This is a fundamental point. Once people start to bring religion into the picture, things change.

I have always battled whether abortion should be legal or not. A core part of me wants it to be illegal--because it is of the person's mistake that the baby came. Yet, there is too much evidence that abortion would only help the overall societal prosperity. For example, as roman stated, the taxpayer will be paying for eighteen years of welfare. Hell, it will be more than that. The fed, by not supporting abortion, would be creating a cycle of delinquent youth who are unable to fend for what is right and continue to fall in the same trap as their ancestors. For this reason, abortion should be a fundamental right to those who wish to exercise it.

crescent22

> ok the private thing is ridiculous, if you're against abortion you can just buy a private plan that doesn't have abortion funding.

Really? What if one doesn't want to pay for abortions with the 5.4% rise in one's marginal tax rate?

tom1944

You can be against abortion and not be religious.

tom1944

Principal- in Freakenomics that was one of the points made to determine why crime rates decreased. Obviously it was controversial.

Kajon

Separation of church and state was set up to keep government out of religion. NOT to keep religion out of government. There is a difference.