Laura and the young Barbara Bush....naughty naughty

dstark · 06-14-2010, 08:03 PM

It's a shame they didn't have enough influence.

Bush women run afoul of GOP orthodoxy - Yahoo! News

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"Why do, basically, people with money have good health care and why do people who live on lower salaries not have good health care?" she said. "Health should be a right for everyone." She is president of the Global Health Corps, an organization that champions global health equity.

No Republican in Congress voted for Obama's health care legislation.
Barbara Bush's comments come just weeks after her mother, former First Lady Laura Bush, professed views that departed sharply from the Republican majority opinion."

DocT · 06-14-2010, 08:11 PM

Boy isn't that the truth!! It would have prevented GW from changing all those laws to achieve conservative goals.

BigG · 06-14-2010, 08:48 PM

Like a balanced budget and smaller government...

poetsheart · 06-14-2010, 09:14 PM

Wow, I'm impressed. If young Barbara actually said those words, it certainly took courage. Good for her.

bluebayou · 06-14-2010, 09:14 PM

Probably a stupid question, but why would/should family members hold the exact same policies as the President? (btw: he was elected; they were not.) Does your spouse hold the exact same views as you? Did Hillary hold the exact same positions as Bill? Does Michelle mirror the current Prez?

DocT · 06-14-2010, 09:18 PM

^^because Republicans are monolithic airheads.

DocT · 06-14-2010, 09:21 PM

"Like a balanced budget and smaller government... "

I wonder if there is a connection between increased spending under Bush and Obama - Hmm - I wonder.

dstark · 06-14-2010, 09:54 PM

Bluebayou....family members can have different views.

These differences with the Bushes aren't small.
Here you had a president running around the country espousing his views and trying to convince the electorate his views are best....and the woman he sleeps with and his daughter have fundamental differences with him.

I just have to smile.

"Country..go with me. My views are correct. Let's enact laws that refect these views.

My own family has views of the opposing party. I have been unable to convince my own family that I am right. What does my family know....."

poetsheart · 06-14-2010, 10:07 PM

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^^because Republicans are monolithic airheads.

Oh, please, no one implied such a thing. I'm impressed because, unlike ordinary families, whose individual members are usually free to openly espouse differing political points of view, a President's spouse and children sometimes find themselves standing under the cleague lights of public scrutiny, and thereby generally must take care not to express a stance that might embarrass the President and/or his/her party. In this case, the viewpoint expressed by Bush's daughter flies in the face of Congressional Republicans' recent lockstep rejection of this very contentious issue. It takes chutzpah to do such a thing. That's all I'm saying.

poetgrl · 06-14-2010, 10:13 PM

Bush I was actually pro-choice and said so in an interview....well, he said, he felt that it was a woman's choice. This family actually has a pretty strong history of political differences of opinion. They've never struck me as particularly monolithic.

The dad was a goldwater republican, relatively liberal, probably wouldn't get elected by today's republican's, actually. The son is a recovering addict who has strong fundamental religious beliefs.....

The daughter is probably a democrat.

MD Mom · 06-14-2010, 10:20 PM

I met, fell in love, and married my husband between the elections of 1980 and 1984. Some days it is really a pain to be married to someone who is on the other end. And I am certain he agrees.

My guess is that presidents' wives often disagree with them. Remember when Babs senior said something against policy? She was quieted quickly.

DocT · 06-14-2010, 10:32 PM

"The son is a recovering addict who has strong fundamental religious beliefs.....

The daughter is probably a democrat."

The view that those with strong fundamental religious beliefs are republicans as implied by the above statement is frequently incorrect. There are others besides protestants who have strong religious beliefs, do not live in the "bible belt" and always vote for democrats.

poetgrl · 06-14-2010, 10:43 PM

Fundamentalist Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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The past half-century has witnessed a surge of Christian fundamentalists toward politics. Some attribute this interest to the decisions by the United States Supreme Court in 1962 to prohibit state-sanctioned prayer in public schools in the case of Engel v. Vitale and in 1963 to prohibit mandatory Bible reading in public schools in the case of Abington School District v. Schempp. By the time Ronald Reagan ran for the presidency in 1980, self-described fundamentalists had become more likely to participate in politics than other Christians were.[11]

Credited with this phenomenon are Rob Grant, Jerry Falwell, and other well-known Fundamentalist clergy, who began urging Christians to become involved in politics in the 1970s. Beginning with Grant's American Christian Cause in 1974, Christian Voice throughout the 1970s and Falwell's Moral Majority in the 1980s, the Christian Right began to have major impact on American politics. By the late 1990s, the Christian Right was influencing elections and policy with groups like Christian Coalition and Family Research Council helping the Republican Party to gain control of the White House, both houses of Congress, and a more conservative Supreme Court by the mid-1990s.

I think wikipedia is okay in a case like this.

I was refering to the christian fundamentalist right wingers. I'm sure there are others.

bluebayou · 06-14-2010, 11:22 PM

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These differences with the Bushes aren't small.
Here you had a president running around the country espousing his views and trying to convince the electorate his views are best....and the woman he sleeps with and his daughter have fundamental differences with him.

Sorry, but I'm just really stupid and see little relevance. By your own admission, the campaigner (for Pres.) when "running around the country espousing his views..." and then he was elected for them, on those views. He told folks what HIS views were and he was elected. George's wife was not elected, and wasn't even on the ballot, last I checked. Thus, as a voter, I don't care much about her views, as I don't care about Tipper Core's,Cindy McCain's, Michelle Obama's or First Dude's.

poetsheart · 06-14-2010, 11:28 PM

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George's wife was not elected, and wasn't even on the ballot, last I checked. Thus, as a voter, I don't care much about her views, as I don't care about Tipper Core's,Cindy McCain's, Michelle Obama's or First Dude's.

Unfortunately, blue, a lot of people care a great deal about the views of the spouses of Presidents. They certainly cared a lot about Michelle Obama's while her husband was running for President, and would have you believe that they disqualified him from office.