Bay

They bother a lot of people. Probably about 50% of the world's population may be bothered by Rush's and Maher's words. It would be helpful if more of the other 50% were bothered by it, too.

FutureWeatherman

I disagree with this contraception stuff, but it is religion based. There's no need for contraception unless one is sexually active. According to my religious beliefs, one should not be sexually active until they're married, at which point they should be able to afford it, so I can't really go for it being needed to be covered by insurance.

With this name-calling stuff, that was bad (by Rush and Maher). However, when Andrew Brietbart died, I heard him called alot of mean/demeaning terms by liberal talk show hosts. They disrespected a dead man, which is despicable.

Bay

It is very easy to stop listening to them. I don't listen/watch these guys, and my life is better for it.

LasMa

As has been stated repeatedly on this thread and elsewhere, there are many uses for birth control besides contraception. They're used to treat ovarian cysts, among other serious medical conditions.

Are all the rest of us required to live according to your personal beliefs?

FutureWeatherman

No, they're not, which is why I'll just agree to disagree. I don't force religion on others (unlike a certain religion I'm sure most people are familiar with.)

I just don't agree with the current insurance set-up, but paying for everything people want/need doesn't help either. I need a condom a day, and some medicinal marijuana. My insurance should pay for all of that, true?

mom2collegekids

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I don't like Bill Maher. But I will point out that there was a big difference between the person he called a nasty name, and the person Rush called a nasty name,"


Oh my goodness! Since when should a person feel that it's ok to call one woman a bad name, but not ok to call another.....just because you don't agree with the first woman's politics and do agree with the other. That's just wrong......wrong.

Either women deserve respect or they don't. We don't have a party-litmus test for basic decency. If we start having one, this country will go downhill in a hurry as both sides are given "permission" to trash women of the opposing side. Think about....is that what you want? I sure don't.

romanigypsyeyes

Yes... there is... Oy.

LasMa

kluge, I don't know either, but a particular person popped immediately to my mind. This is just a guess:

A person says that all women who use birth control are [insert bad word]. And yet this person, although married four times, has never produced a child. So either his wives use/d birth control and are therefore [insert bad word], or he really doesn't believe what he says he believes. Of these two explanations, I favor the latter. But there are several other explanations which IMO are far more likely. Hint: This person was once caught carrying large quantities of Viagra (which, BTW, is usually covered by insurance).

geeps20

If you work for a religious institution, then maybe you should respect their beliefs.

mini

"I need a condom a day, and some medicinal marijuana. My insurance should pay for all of that, true?"

If a team of best public health and medicine experts in the country, convened specifically for this purpose, based on the best available evidence, recommends to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which, in turn, validating the research basis, passes the recommendation on to HHS that these are recommended preventive health services, you bet they should. And your insurance company would be jumping at the chance to do so, because it would save THEM (and hence you) money.

"If you work for a religious institution, then maybe you should respect their beliefs."

Whose? My wife works for the largest Catholic health system in the Tri-State area, which self-insures, and covers hundreds of thousands of employees and family members. Their board is all Catholic - and includes monsignors, priests, nuns, and Catholic "heavy hitters". Apparently it is in keeping with their CATHOLIC beliefs to provide all preventive health services - including birth control pills - to all covered employees and families. And they have for a very long time. Even to nuns, if they need them. (some do, for reasons already stated.) They also do so because they know that to do so is CHEAPER for them.

Mind you, this is part of their Catholic belief system. They do not allow my wife to assist in implementation of the "death with dignity" law (assisted suicide) because that is NOT in keeping with their Catholic belief system. But birth control pills definitely are, or they wouldn't be providing them (without co-pay - they aren't free - they are paid for as part of the premium. But even that isn't really true, because providing them LOWERS the premiums for everyone.)

And, in my state, not only do Catholic institutions provide birth control pills in keeping with their Catholic beliefs, many Catholic CHURCHES do.

FutureWeatherman

I knew I shouldn't have gotten involved lol, I'm done!

Btw, I don't work for a religious institution, and to those who pm'ed me, I'm not gay or anti-women.

LasMa

FutureWeatherman, yes, I absolutely believe that medical marijuana should be covered by insurance.

And your many condoms don't have potentially dangerous side effects which necessitate being under a doctor's care while you use them. Nor are they used to treat other serious medical conditions.

greenwitch

I believe this works both ways. There is an Adventist hospital nearby, and even though it is, strictly speaking, against their beliefs, they do serve pepper, chocolate, caffeine, and meat in their public cafeteria and to their patients. Would you, could you, work there if they insisted on no coffee??????

FutureWeatherman

Well, I'm an Adventist, so I could lol. I do know that they do that, to cater to the patients who don't share our belief, and I'm okay with that.

LasMa

I wouldn't call it "catering." I'd call it "basic decency" and "allowing others to live by their own beliefs, even if they're not your beliefs."