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Old 04-18-2012, 12:27 PM   #61
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take that back on buying a put - I'm tired today.
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:33 PM   #62
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When I sell a put, Schwab makes me set aside enough cash to buy the stock. They call it "cash secured put selling." I don't even want a higher level of approval that would let me sell naked calls or unsecured puts.

I totally agree with this:
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Please do not take Option advice from anyone here, period.
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:35 PM   #63
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Njres....Hmmm..

Interactive broker charges less than Schwab...I was thinking of switching..especially with all the tax reporting problems..

How much do you pay for a futures contract?

Obviously ...you like the tradestation's interface.

How much does tradestation charge for options?

One thing about Schwab..because they sell their orderflow...occasionally...a trader gets better fills than the screen shows...if that trader takes a bid or offer...

So now that I think of it...my commission cost on the 100 put sell was probably less thsn half the quoted commission prices..because I did get better fills.
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:44 PM   #64
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In a stock, I stand corrected. You can lose ALOT, stock could go to zero. Naked Index Puts have wiped serious people out. I question any Broker/Dealer that would approve of hundreds or thousands of options contracts ( each representing 100 shares). Especially the do it yourself online B/D's. You should have millions in your account to get approval for that - and if you do - you are not interested in speculating in Options. That is Vegas style investing. I have seen stocks halted trading, markets closed for days ( 9/11), flash trading, things you cannot plan for. Sept. 2008?!
Again, selling naked Options is not investing. It's gambling. Please post responsibly.
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:49 PM   #65
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It is gambling...

I think the thread title says that gambling is included in this thread.

I have seen many traders wiped out.

Maybe, I better stop talking about these trades.
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:03 PM   #66
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"Again, selling naked Options is not investing. It's gambling. Please post responsibly. "

???? - only calls and most people do not have approval to sell any naked options
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:41 PM   #67
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I have no idea what you're all talking about.
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:03 PM   #68
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Which part?
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:15 PM   #69
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I did another goofy trade today...I lost maybe $100...

I better not say what is was.

The interesting thing about options is you can trade calls and end up with a put position or trade puts and end up with a call position.

For example...if somebody buys 200 shares of Aapl and sells 2 may 630 calls against it...that person has sold 2 may 630 puts. It just doesn't say that on the confirms.

Selling Covered calls is the same as selling uncovered puts...Or selling puts naked.

Brokerage firms have gotten in trouble because they didn't understand this. It wasn't that long ago that brokerage firms didn't allow naked put selling... But they did allow covered writes.


Where I have seen the public get in trouble is when they misunderstood
the risk.

Somebody might think I can handle the downside of owning 500 shares of a stock. Hey if I sell covered calls...I can handle more downside...
I can buy more shares...maybe...instead of buying 500 shares...I buy 1,000 shares and sell 10 calls.

Well...just make a profit and loss chart with different share prices and it becomes obvious that the pnl for covered writes are very different than owning fewer shares...

Anyway..I have seen so many people blow up on this....

The stock gets crushed and then it is ugly...

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Old 04-18-2012, 09:31 PM   #70
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I sold Qualcomm April calls that I had bought a while ago figuring it would go down based on my company's reduction in backlog which means Qualcomm would and will have a harder time getting chips.
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:33 PM   #71
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But if Qcom wants more chips why wouldn't you supply them?

Do you need some minimum amount of orders?

I am not getting this...
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:36 PM   #72
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If backlogs are reduced..I would think it would be easier to get product.
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:37 PM   #73
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dstark,
So, how would you recommend hedging a long stock position in shares, then? You know-- the basic attempt to protect from a decline in the stock price without having to actually sell the shares?
Some readers of this thread do need a little guidance!
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:48 PM   #74
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"But if Qcom wants more chips why wouldn't you supply them?

Do you need some minimum amount of orders?

I am not getting this... "

We don't make chips, we sell the equipment that is necessary to make chips. Our backlog is being reduced because our customers: TSMC, Samsung, IBM, Intel etc. are not ordering new equipment to make more chips. We own > 70% of the market for our product. Since they are ordering less of our product, they do not see as heavy a demand for chips this year. As you're aware, Samsung supplies the chips that go into the iphone and their own products.
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:48 PM   #75
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Those expecting to get the guidance here really need the guidance!
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