MommaJ

Again I say, so what? No one ever said doing the right thing is easy. And it's not as if Armstrong has ever stepped up and explained it that way, much less offered any ideas to clean up the sport. He still denies everything. He's a cheat, fraud AND a liar.

cbreeze

Xiggi, I can always count on you to express your anti-Asian sentiments in your posts on CC throughout the years.

busdriver11

^^Yipes, that's kind of harsh, cbreeze. Though I don't know any history of what you talk about. But is the statement, " Russia and China would not only not devote a cent to such stupid and misguided group such as USADA, but would actively seek to hide the organized cheating it has maintained for generations," untrue in some way?

StillGreen

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Sportspeople in Doping Cases by Nationality (Top 21)

People entered in this category have either:

A. Been suspended by a sporting body (an international governing body, national federation, professional league, or government agency) for illegal performance-enhancing drug, and/or banned drug, use;
B. Publicly admitted such use;
C. Been found to have taken illegal performance-enhancing drugs by a court of law;
D. Been suspended by a sporting body for failure to submit to mandatory drug testing.

1. American sportspeople in doping cases‎ (145 P)

2. Russian sportspeople in doping cases‎ (45 P)
3. Australian sportspeople in doping cases‎ (1 C, 36 P)
4. English sportspeople in doping cases‎ (30 P)
5. French sportspeople in doping cases‎ (28 P)

6. Brazilian sportspeople in doping cases‎ (25 P)
7. Bulgarian sportspeople in doping cases‎ (21 P)
7. German sportspeople in doping cases‎ (21 P)
9. Turkish sportspeople in doping cases‎ (20 P)
10. Jamaican sportspeople in doping cases‎ (19 P)

11. Moroccan sportspeople in doping cases‎ (18 P)
12. Spanish sportspeople in doping cases‎ (16 P)
13. Ukrainian sportspeople in doping cases‎ (15 P)
14. Dominican Republic sportspeople in doping cases‎ (14 P)
14. Finnish sportspeople in doping cases‎ (14 P)

16. Nigerian sportspeople in doping cases‎ (12 P)
16. Canadian sportspeople in doping cases‎ (1 C, 11 P)
18. Chinese sportspeople in doping cases‎ (11 P)
18. Kenyan sportspeople in doping cases‎ (11 P)
18. Romanian sportspeople in doping cases‎ (11 P)

21. Iranian sportspeople in doping cases‎ (10 P)
21. Italian sportspeople in doping cases‎ (10 P)
21. Norwegian sportspeople in doping cases‎ (10 P)

C= Subcategory, P= Page dedicated to each offender.

Category:Sportspeople in doping cases by nationality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also please refer to Canuckguy's message #135.

Nrdsb4

I guess that pretty much sums it up. What a shame. I really thought he was an amazing person in addition to being a God on a cycle. Couldn't have been more wrong.

ellemenope

I have come to that sad conclusion also. Cycling and cyclists need to clean up...for the benefit of the sport AND for the participants themselves.

TutuTaxi

I am not an avid follower of professional cycling and had no idea the sport had a MAJOR doping problem. I remember D insisting our first stop, during a Seattle shopping trip, should be the Nike store where she could buy the yellow bands. I believed Lance Armstrong’s denials ….. but it seems he had been lying for years.
How did LA destroy this person’s life?

alwaysamom

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/13/sp...pagewanted=all

There you go, Tutu.

MomofWildChild

We have just one side of the story on that.

TutuTaxi

WOW!
Thanks alwaysamom for the article link. It was one thing for LA to deny her accusations but way over the top to call her a prostitute with a drinking problem.

fishymom

True, but a story that has been corroborated by many other sworn testimonies. Believe me, I was an ardent Lance Armstrong supporter for many years, until the evidence against him was overwhelming. I bought Livestrong bands for my entire team when they first became available and were selling out everywhere. It hurts when someone who you held up as a shining example to your own kids and the athletes you coached turns out to be a liar and cheater, willing to ruin peoples lives to cover his arse. In the face of all the evidence against him, he needs to summon what integrity he has left, if any, and admit to what he has done. And yes, I know all about elite and professional sports and I don't buy the excuse that everybody does it. As others have suggested, change the rules or start your own federation, but if you choose to compete, you must follow the rules, it is just that simple.

Cardinal Fang

One side of the story? What can you mean by that, MOWC? She said he doped. We now know, he did. She wrote a book saying he doped. He sued her for libel. How scummy is it to sue someone for libel, when they were telling the truth?

xiggi

My bad. In Wikipedia I shall trust! What was I thinking?

But then, there are those pesky reports surrounding the rise and fall of the so-called failed dynasty of Chinese swimmers. The story?

Dihydrotestosterone, anabolic steroids, erythropoietin and human growth hormones. All banned substances. All used by various members of the Chinese national swim team in the last 15 years.

China did not register among the world's swimming powers until the 1990s, and when they did, they did with a bang. The country won four swimming gold medals at the 1992 Barcelona Olympics and then took 12 of 16 women's titles at the 1994 world championships.

The team's sudden success fuelled suspicion of drug use, and by the next big competition, those hunches proved true. Eleven athletes tested positive for dihydrotestosterone at the 1994 Asian Games. The big bust decimated the swim squad for the 1996 Olympics (they won just one gold), but soon enough the Chinese were back on top again. Not for long, however.

Four positive tests before the 1998 world championships along with the vials of the human growth hormone found in breastroker Yuan Yuan's luggage before the worlds signalled that doping was still thriving in China's pools.Though the country maintained there was no systemic doping on its swim teams, the statistics say otherwise.

Over 40 Chinese swimmers since 1990 have failed drug tests. That's triple the amount of any other swimming country during the same period of time. After pressure from FINA, swimming's governing body, China's swim association promised stricter drug testing and higher penalties for cheats. Just before the 2000 Sydney Olympics, China removed four swimmers from its team because of "suspicious" drug test results.

Chinese swimmers were rarely on the podium in major competitions until the 2003 world aquatic championships in Barcelona. There, the women's team collected seven swimming medals, including three gold. Whether those swims were clean or not, China's young swimmers will have to compete under a cloud of suspicion for years to come due to the generation of cheaters before them.

xiggi

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Xiggi, I can always count on you to express your anti-Asian sentiments in your posts on CC throughout the years. <<<

Smoke and fire? I guess I am weaving reports of organized cheating in sports and academics of thin air. I hold such creative powers that I can create whimsical stories about questionable birth certificates, SAT mafia operations in Asia, excessive parental pressures, and other cheating scandals.

I call them as I see them. Feel free to do the same about my expressed sentiments. After all, facts are facts, but opinions and sentiments are by nature subjective.

PS If I still post here by then, I will make sure to share stories about Asia's and Asians' positive efforts to curb the rampant cheating in college admissions, standardized testing, and perhaps athletics. Oh wait, saying that must rekindle the warring flames!

StillGreen

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Only a partial list of news in 2012 so far, other than Armstrong and cycling.

Athletics-U.S. runner Dunn banned two years for doping - Yahoo! Sports

IOC strips Crystal Cox of 2004 relay gold medal - Yahoo! Sports

Justin Gatlin learned in his time away from track