TourGuide446

Let's not forget about Strom Thurmond. And don't tell me W and Condi haven't given each other a little "comfort." I believe David Frost and Diane Carroll were an item for quite a while, before Vic Damone ended up with her.

zoosermom

"And don't tell me W and Condi haven't given each other a little "comfort."

Right. Because she's certainly not qualified to have been chosen for her position based on education and experience.

LakeWashington

LOL Zoosermom.

Also, yes MSDAD Martinique and Guadalupe are departments of France. Not territories or dependents. Like Alaska and Hawaii, M&G have full voting representation in the national legislature. The political status of M&G is also why those islands have a high standard of living, compared not only to Haiti but also to some English-speaking Caribbeans islands. M&G are France. And yes, clearly there has been integration as regards marriage and family in Martinique, although perhaps not as widely among the ruling class. Let's not forget that the plantation system in the French Caribbean was quite oppressive, during and after slavery, as chronicled by Josef Zobel in his autobiographical novel, 'Sugar Cane Alley'.

chloe101

Prince Maximilian
Robin Thicke
Peter Norton
Stone Phillips
Justin Chambers
paul Wall
Ron Pearlman
Wolfgang Puck
Mark Ecko
Edgar Bronfman
Ronald Betts
monte Lipman
Luc Besson
Shadow Stevens

tdanielle

Robin Thicke comes to mind.

NYMomof2

Barack Obama is of mixed racial heritage, but his wife is black. I just read today that he deliberately chose a black wife, and ended a relationaship with a white woman because of her race (not that I approve of this; I was actually dismayed). Of course, Michelle Obama is certainly her husband's equal in terms of intelligence, education, etc.

lealdragon

Don't know whether the rumors are true (as I think they MIGHT be, judging by the way he sometimes looks at her), but if they are, and W & Condi do have a thing going, that does not mean she wasn't chosen for her position based on education and experience.

tom1944

I am not a W fan but it is extremely unfair to spread any rumor that involves adultry. He can have affection for Condi and still be a faithful and loving husband.

tdanielle

NYMom, Obama did what?!
Can you give me the link?

MSMDAD

Can you please provide us with a source for this comment?

lealdragon

Yeah, I'm interested in that too. Makes it sound like he chose his wife based on political aspirations...that's quite an accusation.

Could it be that it just didn't work out with the white woman, and he just happened to fall in love with a black woman?

NYMomof2

I read this today in the NY Times... Maureen Dowd's column. She claims that Obama wrote this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/opinion/02dowd.html

"But he notes that Obama’s abandonment by his African father at the age of 2 marked him. “Much of the excitement that surrounds him comes from the perception that he is only lightly tethered to race,” Steele writes. “Yet the very arc of his life — from Hawaii to the South Side of Chicago — has been shaped by an often conscious resolve to ‘belong’ irrefutably to the black identity.” (Obama wrote that he dropped a white girlfriend partly because of her race.)"

I don't think there's any implication that he chose his wife for political reasons, just that he preferred to have a black identity. I don't think it's all that unusual for people to restrict their choice of spouse to a particular group. For example, many people in my extended family considered only Roman Catholics.

epistrophy

Maybe I've missed this, but if not I'm a bit surprised that no one has yet mentioned - as a possible reason why white women appear to be more sought after by black men as marriage partners than black women are by white men - the fact that, while things may have changed to some extent in this regard in recent years, it nonetheless remains the case that the images of female beauty and sexual attractiveness that permeate the media - and every other part of our culture - are overwhelmingly white.

Black and beautiful: African-American women haven't had an easy time in the fashion world

lealdragon

Interesting article. I'd never heard of Alek Wek (don't really keep up with the fashion industry!), but I was intrigued, so I did a search...amazing! So refreshing to see a black model who has found success without trying to look...white.

Not to say there haven't been others, but Alek really does stand out.

Shrinkrap

"NSM you have hit upon a topic that concerns all parents of AfAm Ds. I am far more worried than H and it is making, finding the right college fit for D a major concern."

Amen to that; D doesn't make mention of it, and she may be right not to, but I have been there and done that ( feel free to interpret that as you like), granted quite awhile ago. I realize that I don't have the same concerns about my son, who get's plenty of attention from the...ahem..."fairer sex" if you will...my concerns for him are different.

"Some of this is statistics. A rich black man is not going to meet that many eligible black women at the country club."

And the odds aren't great for meeting a black man, rich or otherwise, in college.