Say it here cause yo can't say it directly- the get it off your chest thread

[epiphany]

To the boys and (pretend) young "men" who believe they're just so cool and so attractive to females by wearing size 40X pants around their knees: do you think that you're actually, you know, sexy? Do you fantasize that young women are actually turned on by such attire? Or are you so clueless that it never occurred to you that you were making a statement about yourself by dressing that way?

...And that statement would be? (Here are some possibilities)
This is my "after" picture
I'm ashamed of my male body
I want everyone to know that I wear boxers instead of briefs
I'm practicing to be a male geisha (you know: the shuffle-step required by anyone wearing pants around their knees, calves, or ankles)
I have no interest in moving quickly
I have no individuality & no brain, but boy, do I know how to behave as part of a herd of sheep

...and most importantly,
My main message is, females stay away. (The same message females would give males if they dressed in 12-sizes-too-big muumuus, shuffled along like a clumsy animal, & just as ungracefully)

Get a clue, guys. Females like to look at a male physique just as much as guys expect to see some vague outline of the female body when that body is clothed. We're turned on by males who exhibit some energy, some pride in their bodies, and can walk normally unless they have a physical disability.

...(Oh, sorry I forgot, yours must be a social disability.)

On a teenager it's embarrassing. On a guy in his 20's it's pathetic.

..Oh, but wait: You're really, you know, cool.

By the way, were you ever hoping to get a real job anywhere in that conformist costume? Do you fancy that potential employers will find you cool, too?

[UCLAri]

epiphany,

I must admit, my jeans are somewhat baggy. I was raised on somewhat loose-fitting jeans, and I can't really wear anything unless it's at least somewhat loose around my legs. Boot cut just kills me.

[epiphany]

....but I assume the basic shape of your pants fits the basic shape of your body, right? I mean, I doubt that you go around wearing potato sacks & sleeping bags on your legs. Loose is one thing. Clownish is something else. Generally, I don't date clowns. And I know no intelligent, sexy women who are interesting in dating men who dress like clowns.

But the interesting thing is, that the guys spoken of are far more interested in identifying with clowns than in meeting a really exciting woman.

[citygirlsmom]

My friend's son was trying on pants, he is like a guys 28, he wanted xxl pants to wear to school, she told him if they wouldn't stay up when he raised his hands he couldn't buy them...and once I saw a guy walking across the street with to cases of beer on his shoulders, wearing the saggy pants, which fell to his ankles, he wasn't sure what to do so he "waddled" to the sidewalk...with his tightie whities for all the world to see....so epiphany, I am with you

[citygirlsmom]

and my rant of the day:

to the airlines- changing our tickets one month before a mexico trip, and doing it at such short notice, though we bought the tickets ages ago, that we have to spend another 200 dollars just to get to our location...well, you are just horrid mean bate and switch charletons

[Cressmom]

To one special boy,
I'm sorry that things didn't work out and she decided to break up. You should move on and accept the idea that you two will be good friends sharing again nice moments. Stop being nasty, it bothers us, and it's hurting you. We can't change her mind and we won't try to do it, she is better now. We have nothing against you, we open our home to you if you need to talk, but please, a phone call would be nice, throwing paintballs at my house it is a nasty way to get our attention. I know you since you were a chubby and tiny little boy in your early school years, and I really miss having you around, but you are not longer that boy who used to fall asleep in my arms, you grew up, accept it, you are not longer in elementary school.
In the case you read this lines, Happy Birthday! Believe me, after so many years or baking your birthday's cakes and having parties for you, I'm sad that this had change, don’t think that I wished this to happen, it is not true.

[Karen Colleges]

To the teachers who encourage shy quirky kids- thank you from the depths of my heart.

To the teachers who can only bother mentoring the obvious stars- I'm sorry for your loss. You could have had a stable full of stars, if you'd just give ALL the kids a chance, a little push, and a good word.

(Do I have to forgive the guy who singlehandedly torpedoed my kid's self esteem?)

[emeraldkity4]

On a guy in his 20's it's pathetic.


ever seen a guy in his 50s wearing this?

I have
I assumed premature senility

[epiphany]

Me, too, EK.

...or, regression to adolescence. Either way, and at any age, the message is dubious, i.m.o. Iconclasm I get. Experimentation I get. But looking as unsexy as possible, while simultaneously looking juvenile? (Don't get.)

[somemom]

Karen: No, you do not have to forgive professionals who are supposed to be a role model for all kids and teach all kids to their potential when they choose to love the popular crowd and hurt your kid!!

[silversenior]

To Older Son's First Kindergarten Teacher, Whose Only Observation About Him, Ever, Was: "He's a behavior problem: he's rambunctious, he finishes his work too quickly, he rolls around on the floor and he interrupts" (Actually, he was lively, quick thinking, bored and trying to help the other kids):
THANK GOODNESS OTHER TEACHERS WHO "GOT HIM" and challenged him and funneled his energy and helped him with his natural maturing process, and for whom he was never, ever a behavior problem.

To the school system who decided that S#2 -- whose disabilities include anxiety issues similar to obsessive/compulsive disorder, language/communication/sensory issues that sometimes look like autism, learning disabilities concerning memory/word retrieval/processing/organizing and giftedness in math/spacial/IQ that can be scary high--- could get an appropriate education in its program for kids with severe emotional disturbance/disability even though every consultant and treating medical specialist said that program WOULD BE THE DEATH OF HIM mostly because of its punitive nature ...
ARRRGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's not rocket science... he's thriving where he is now... it just takes... patience... and a middle school with 18 kids and 45 high school kids ... and classes of 4-10 kids with committed, smart teachers... who respect the kids and challenge them intellectually... where he can fail English and still get legitimate A's in math and science... and there can be a long term plan for success in English... without punishment or viewing it as "just" a behavior problem... and when he falls apart... it never escalates...because they don't punish him for having a hard time... they use it as a clue... it is a blip they problem solve around... And all the time, they are working with him to figure out how he might be able to get BACK into public school... someday...

yea... venting... next best thing to actual problem solving!

[PackMom]

To all the people who congratulated me/us on S1's academic/scholarship success two years ago and are now quizzing me on S2's (h.s.jr) post high school plans...
Please spare me the shocked look and practically dropped jaw when I tell you that S2 really doesn't know what he will do upon graduation, that 4 year college is a possibility but Comm. college is more likely since he really doesn't have the grades,stats, or motivation at this point to be successful at a 4 yr. college.
Yes, S1 was a star student with great everything but S2 is not his brother and never will be. So please stop asking me if S2 is going to "follow in his brother's footsteps". The answer is no. He never has and never will so stop acting as if he has a terminal disease when I say he'll probably attend Community College. Don't feel sorry for him. He'll be fine.

[mootmom]

^ Boy does that sound like our story, too, PackMom... So permit me to continue.

To everyone who asks me excitedly whether S#2 is following his brother to MIT in the fall, and then stumbles and tries to figure out what to say when I mention S#2's plans to attend a small regional school you never heard of on the opposite coast of the US: take a chill pill and learn to smile. We'd appreciate your congratulations, thanks, and maybe a polite question or two. We aren't looking for sympathy or "there, there", as if somehow this is a consolation prize for him. He's really, really excited about his plans, he'll be near his favorite uncle and NYC and friends from CTY, his program is great and he's had the red carpet rolled out for him at his school in half a dozen ways, and we're happy for him. It would be especially nice if you could be, too.

And stop saying the name of the school wrong!

[astrophysicsmom]

Yay for CTY friends! D found out that 2 friends that were in her same class/session/dorm floor for 2 successive years at Lancaster are going to be at her college, awaiting her arrival. Yay!

OK, let the venting continue!!!

[dmd77]

mootmom, hmmm, small school, hard to pronounce, near NYC.... can't be renssaeler, it's not small! what school is your son going to? I'm sure it's a great choice for him.