teriwtt

yea, I also listened to the original speech he gave. He was answering a question posed to him; listen to it all in context. Nothing wrong with it. In fact, he was speaking not only about Pennsylvanians, but related it to people across the Midwest, of which I am part of. Bitter = angry, and yes, people are cynical and resentful, feeling as if they haven't been heard by our government for a long time. Maybe those of you in Texas are doing better than us; after all, we know it's Dubya's place of refuge, and he has a soft place in his heart for the Lone Star State.

parent2noles

aruff, it seems you have me confused with esmitty01 (see post #13) at least in part.

Hekau

I'm a news show/talking heads junky, as far back as I can remember McCain has always been trotted out to discuss things like foreign policy. It will be a hard sell to paint him as inexperienced.(All those years of soundbites having him discuss tense situations all over the world...and not the partyline jingo mind you, but actual youknow, thoughts)

Yes, McCain has some neocons around him, he also has members of the opposing team...a 'team' he actually fits in with more comfortably. What's going on appears to be a power struggle within the party...not within McCain. As he himself has said, he's old as dirt, with that comes some small benefit...you tend to think for yourself and have long left the ability to be swayed into falling into the wrong crowd behind. He has years and years of proving he thinks for himself and that thinking tends to be fairly moderate.(Hence his enemies within his own party)

So why the shock at his positioning himself to get elected? It's something every politician does and it's silly to hold it against him alone.(Clears throat and points to Clinton/Obama's election time stand on Nafta)

I DO think the struggle within the party is very real. Hagel and Powell withholding their support is worrisome and strangely reassuring at the same time. I just don't believe McCain is going neocon anytime soon.

Has he messed up the shiite/sunni names? Yes, I believe it's been 3 times...not 7. I also know, talking head junky that I am, that Chris Matthews messed it up while reporting on McCain's mess up....the same day that Obama messed up and caught himself on the very same thing. Does it mean these bright men don't have a clue? Of course not.

I must be the only person thrilled with the choices we have for president. While I disagree almost violently at times with each candidate, I also feel that for the first time in a very, very long time the country will be in the hands of a thoughtful, caring person whomever wins. That makes me happy.

bz2010

What an ambiguous statement! I'm a "pragmatist"; am I concerned? No! Therefore, this statement could be considered blatantly false. That's one of the most slanted bits of journalism I've ever seen.

You're gonna call McCain a pinhead & say he needs to brush up on history?? Give me a break! Pardon me, but your ignorance is showing. McCain's been in government for over 20 years, so it's obvious he would have a pretty good handle on modern foreign policy. Before that he was a Navy Liason in Washington. How about the fact that his grandfather was on the Missouri when Japan surrendered in WWII, or that his dad was Commanding the Pacific Fleet during the Vietnam Conflict? Foreign Policy is in McCain's DNA.

Further, McCain's experiences as a POW and the fact that he has two sons on active duty would give him special insight into the horrors of war & judgement about the use of troops.

I don't think you can bust McCain on a lack of experience. To attempt to do so is sort of a joke actually. Sorry.

Vyse

Weak troll, 2/10.

saransay

What these non-sense conservatives don't understand is that our federal budget has somewhere between 200 and 300 billion in subsidies for CORPORATIONS. Look at Bear Stearns, the Banking Crisis of 1980's, the Airline Bailout after 2001

Geez I guess Chelsea should be able to tag-team with Jenna Bush to be President in 2012. It's in their DNA after all. Believe me there's no foreign policy gene. I don't really think someone who thought Al-Qaeda was a Shia organization more than once knows much about anything. He sounds like a pinhead to me. Btw, someone here said Obama made that same mistake and so did Chris Matthews. Can you show some proof about Obama saying that , as for Chris Matthews saying i t, I don't recall Chris Matthews running for president.
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bz2010

By the DNA comment, I just meant that McCain has been immersed in world events his entire life. Way to make an argument against a figure of speech tho'! Bravo!

Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

I really shouldn't dignify this absurd thread w/ a response, but oh well...

Novelisto

Saransay, during the recent Petraeus/Crocker show, Sen. Obama asked if the Iraqi gov't was supporting the terrorists in Iraq. He meant Iranian gov't. A single slip of the tongue such as anyone might make. He did not confuse Sunni and Shia repeatedly, he did not make repetitive errors regarding the basic relationship between Iran and Al-Qaeda (hint: they hate each other), nor was he only able to retrieve his slip when somebody whispered in his ear during a public event to, as it proves, no avail since he continues making the same error....that's all J. McCain's.

poetsheart

Sunni and Shia are relatively easy to mix up when speaking. It doesn't mean the speaker doesn't know that of which he speaks. McCain certainly does know the difference between the two groups, you can be sure. Ask yourself why you insist in insisting that McCain is a Pinhead, against all evidence to the contrary. Is it because you're so partisan as to be incapable of even momentary objectivity?

Novelisto

Easy to mix up even after you've been publically humiliated for doing so? Don't you think that you would perhaps try harder if such was the case? I think it's an excellent indicator that McCain has learned it wrong and now can't change.

And I never called him a Pinhead.

teriwtt

poetsheart - I agree with you regarding mixing up names when speaking. I'm giving McCain a pass on this one. If one parent here (with more than one child) has not called one child by the other's name (at least several times) and visa versa, please raise your hand.

Now give me a list of other things I disagree with Obama, I mean Clinton, I mean McCain, and I'll go to town with my opinions.

teriwtt

Regarding who has what experience... somehow I missed this one:

Colin Powell on "Good Morning America" today sounded like he was giving Barack Obama's talking points when it comes to the experience question.

ABC News' Dianne Sawyer asked Powell what he made of the presidential candidate's "relative lack" of seasoning as a national and international figure.

"He doesn't have experience at the senior levels of national government. But I've seen other individuals come along who didn't have that breadth of experience and what they do is surround themselves with people who do bring that experience.

"With Sen. Obama, he didn't have a lot of experience running a presidential campaign, did he? But he seems to know how to organize a task and he seems to know how to apply resources to a problem at hand. So that gives me some indication that (with) his inexperience in foreign affairs or domestic affairs, he may be someone who can learn quickly."

kluge

I'm not going to bust McCain's chops over this - but the only gaffe I heard was McCain saying that Iran was supporting al Qaeda, not simply mixing up "Sunni" and "Shia." Sunni/Shia are words anyone could mix up (as is Iraq/Iran for that matter.) But it's all nitpicking, just like Clinton forgetting the name of some (Russian? - I don't recall the details) politician. It's not a multiple choice test.

saransay

The use of the word pinhead is actually something I got from the Factor , O'Reilly's last segment is always Pinheads and Patriots.