teriwtt

C'mon Christcorp. No one really needs to hear what Obama says about Wright anymore, because it's been reported on ad nauseum by every possible media outlet there is. In fact, I'll bet most of us here could parrot exactly what he says. I say the same thing about Hillary and Bosnia... she gave her answer, and let's move on. I don't need (nor want) to hear over and over again the same answer. I want to hear about other issues that I have not heard about.

bulletandpima

What Christcorp was saying was when Obama/Wright issue arose many supporters were saying that it was unfair and didn't matter who he associated with, yet the same people who defended Obama are attacking McCain on his anger.

I agree it should be about the issues, but as long as we scurry around for more info about either issue the media will search it down...those scoops sell more papers then explaining to the citizens how the health promises will actually be paid for

Hunt

But some things do matter more than other things. I happen to think that vindictiveness and an explosive temper matter more than the "Wright issue," which I think was absurdly overhyped. I think it's pretty much played out, though. We haven't seen yet whether the reports about McCain's temper and mistreatment of subordinates will fizzle out or will accumulate. It has to give one pause that so many of the criticisms of him came from Republicans.

Christcorp

We agree Hunt. There are some things that do matter. At least to us individually. It matters to me that Obama associates with William Ayers who he knew was a terrorist. Granted; he said it was something that happened when he was 8 years old and therefor any relationship shouldn't matter. I do have a problem with that. If I had a neighbor who was 20 years older than me and I found out that when he was younger he was a child molester, I wouldn't associate with him now. Especially if that person admittedly said they don't feel they had done enough and should have done more. Well, Ayers isn't repentant of his past and said he wishes he had bombed more places. Sorry, but to associate with such a person is a problem in my opinion. It speaks highly of Obama's integrity and values. Such an acquaintance seems pretty vindictive and explosive to me.

Hunt

I kind of feel the same way--one of the reasons I oppose McCain is his association with George W. Bush, who has done more to harm this country than a legion of William Ayers.

Novelisto

Not to mention all the divisive religious figures that McCain first called 'agents of intolerance' and then snuggled up to when he realized he couldn't win without them. But there must be some subtle difference that I can't grasp between an angry black preacher with a church and a million-dollar home and angry white preachers with tv stations, multi-million dollar homes, and strange ideas about Catholics, gay people, and...the weather?

Christcorp

Darn Hunt; We could play that game all day long with me naming half the democrats and you naming the republicans. But the compare the president; whether it's bush, clinton, carter, regan, etc... with a self proclaimed terrorist who has used bombs in the USA and wishes he had done more; is just plain weak and sick. Sorry Hunt, but that's not a debate I'm willing to stoop down to.

Hunt

My recollection is that Ayers went to prison, served his debt to society, and is now a productive member of society. Bush, of course, hasn't paid for his crimes, so I agree that there's no comparison.

Christcorp

Served his debt; yes. Sorry and repentant; no! He still admits wishing he had been able to do more.

SouthJerseyChessMom

wishing to do more what- trying to stop the Vietnam war?

Christcorp

No, wishing he had place more bombs.

Hunt

According to quotes in his Wikipedia entry, he says that he didn't mean he wishes he'd set more bombs.
I was wrong about one thing though--he didn't go to prison. He and his wife turned themselves in to authorities in 1981 after about 10 years underground. Charges against him were dropped as a result of prosecutorial misconduct.
He later became a professor and writer on education who was appointed to panels, etc., by Mayor Daley. His connection with Obama is fairly minor as well.

A.S.A.P.

Yes,so true. Tragic, but true.

A.S.A.P.

The problem with McCain's outbursts are not just his temper, which he seems to lose even in the presence of cameras and the press, but the character behind it. What kind of man calls a young teenage girl "ugly" for political gain, and laughs about it?

That's a rhetorical question. I don't need to know how others would answer, because I know what kind of man I think behaves this way. A small one. And a bully.

We can't afford another bully in the White House.