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04-24-2008, 11:58 AM
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| "Well, right now he's pretty much in exactly that position, and Michelle seems fine with it."
Nah, he doesn't even have the nomination yet. And who knows if Michelle is fine with the Clintons? |
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04-24-2008, 12:02 PM
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#17 | | Senior Member
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| well if we are going have deceased candidates on the ticket...
Leo would know what to do- I agree.
but I liked Arnold Vinick ,he wasn't bad for the GOP Tavis Smiley . Archives . Alan Alda . December 2, 2004 | PBS |
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04-24-2008, 12:58 PM
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If I were Michelle, I wouldn't want my husband being the only thing standing between Billary and the White House.
| Point well taken, zooser. "Accidents", "suicides", and "plane crashes" seem to orbit this couple. It's probably best not to get too close....  |
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04-24-2008, 01:04 PM
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| "Point well taken, zooser. "Accidents", "suicides", and "plane crashes" seem to orbit this couple. It's probably best not to get too close...."
Eggggzactly! |
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04-24-2008, 01:31 PM
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#20 | | Senior Member
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| There might be Bosnian snipers!  |
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04-24-2008, 01:42 PM
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#21 | | Senior Member
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| "There might be Bosnian snipers"
Mini, that was low even for you. Bosnian snipers are no laughing matter.
(Actually that was one of the funniest posts ever)
Hahahahahaha!!! |
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04-24-2008, 02:24 PM
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#22 | | Junior Member
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| momofnewP: Smile when you say that, pardner!
Obama's running mate will probably be someone from either the South or the West. One reason why Sen. Clinton makes no sense is that two Northern Liberals do not a good ticket make! (See Mondale and Ferraro, or Gore and the formerly Democratic Sen. Lieberman).
Because the South is so frequently written off by the Democratic Powers that Be (changing now with Dean's 50 State Strategy), I believe Obama's choice will be a Western Gov. I further more think that Richardson would be an excellent Veep but I'd doubt he'd take the gig. He seems so much happier not running...though I could see him as U.N. ambassador.
Right now, I think we could see Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano as Obama's Veep. It would make it harder for McCain to take that state for one thing, adds a woman to the ticket for the feminist vote (no reason not to come out for the women who are supporting Hilary if there's a female veep on the ticket) and she's a governor which will answer the 'executive experience' or lack thereof that people throw against Obama. |
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04-24-2008, 02:39 PM
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| For the same reasons, I could also see Richardson--from SW, a governor, and would likely attract some of the Latino vote presently going toward Hillary (which none of my Latino friends can figure out.)
My personal vote would be Edwards, but I doubt he'd take it. |
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04-24-2008, 02:58 PM
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| Janet Napolitano is not a name that anyone outside of Arizona would know. It might grab some of the women vote, but I doubt enough of it. The primaries and the general election are 2 totally different types of elections. They are rooted more around the real issues. Any of the personality and negative points are usually brought up during the primaries. In the general election, you need a vp that can compliment the issues. The areas the presidential candidate isn't strong in, you need a vp who is. You need a vp that is recognizable to the entire country. As the presidential candidate, you need to sell your vp as someone who will be an integral part of your presidency and not just someone who most people believe is only there if the president dies, give speeches when the president can't make it, and to go visit countries to kiss butt.
If they go for a governor, Richardson is good because he ran for the nomination and people know him. If you went after a current senator or Rep, there's obviously a lot of well know people; e.g. Pelosi, boxer, kennedy, biden, etc... The problem with just about ALL of these people is that they are more experienced and successful than the presidential candidate. What will that tell the voters.
Personally; if the democratic party would have really tried to win this election, instead of believing it was an automatic, they would have had Obama groomed as a VP to a more experienced leader. But, they let it go totally freestyle, and now they have what they have. Hillary, who has angered a lot of people who would make for a good VP; and Obama, who has less experience and clout than anyone that he could possibly choose as a vp. This is where the republicans, if done correctly, can hit a home run and win. I guess we'll see what happens. |
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04-24-2008, 06:02 PM
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| You have some good points, Christcorp. However, I'm not sure 'Joe Public' knows as much about these people as political junkies like me, and I'm guessing you, do. They won't pick somebody with too much baggage like Kennedy. Biden is one of those guys of whom it is said 'the most dangerous place in Washington is between Biden and a tv camera' so he's probably out. Pelosi and Boxer are happy where they are, and haven't hinted in anyway that they want 'a bucket of warm spit.'
It's got to be someone outside the Washington establishment. Who knew Ferraro when she got named? Who really knew anything much about Bob Dole? Heck, who remembered Dick Cheney as that guy from the Nixon White House? Sometimes an 'stealth' Veep is the best choice because they are fresh and undamaged by opposition spin. I'm sure each political party has a file on every likely and unlikely prospect.
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04-24-2008, 06:07 PM
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| A quick glance through this thread shows I'm not the only one who suffers from TWW withdrawal! I can't wait for summer vacation to take my seven seasons on dvd and start from the beginning! |
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04-25-2008, 07:22 PM
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| I keep seeing Bill Richardson's name thrown around in this thread like people don't know that America is around 73% White.
A Double-Minority Ticket = Automatic Loss
Let's keep it real. White people will NOT stand for that. Obama's Veep has to be WHITE, a MALE (a woman veep will be seen for what it really is), preferably have a military record, and preferably from the South so that they can seem "All-American". That will bring in a new dimension of voters to Obama, and keep the Republicans, lower-educated, and low-income voters from bull-rushing the voting booths in November.
People act like minorities really have a lot of say in this. They have less than people think. Minorities only make up around 25% of America, so it is very obvious that this race will be won or lost among white voters (older white voters mostly too). And a double-minority ticket is not one way to win them over. |
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04-25-2008, 07:57 PM
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| Agreed with above, no way in hell the DNC puts an african american and a hispanic on the same ticket. |
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04-25-2008, 08:06 PM
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#29 | | Junior Member
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| Jim Webb; Wesley Clark; Gov. Kaine? |
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04-25-2008, 11:00 PM
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#30 | | Junior Member
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| Kenshinshan -- According to the Census Bureau, in 2005, 33% of the population were of a group other than non-Hispanic white. In some states, such as Texas, minorities make up approx. 50% of the population.
I'm sure it doesn't change your opinon...you may very well be correct...but updated facts are useful. US Census Press Releases |
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