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05-03-2008, 02:45 PM
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#331 | | Senior Member
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| "There will be a reckoning I assure you over the unbelievable gender bias come november."
What kind of reckoning? Alternative female write-ins?
As to the educated voters that you put it quotation marks, It just could be that
they... get.... tired....of ....being....spoken ...to ....as....if....they're .......
in..cre..dib..ly un..e..du..ca..ted (by Hillary Clinton)
(Yes, even the words get broken down by syllables when she speaks. Please!)
Maybe this is her ESL approach, but it doesn't fully cut it with educated voters. |
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05-03-2008, 02:54 PM
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#332 | | Junior Member
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| I don't understand why peopel keep on saying that educated people are for Obama. I know a lot of educated people (a lot of them with PhD in economics) who don't support Obama. I have studied their policies and Obama does not provide any new progressive ideas at all.
After all the research that I have done on Obama, I can't vote for him for anything.
In one of his mails to Oregon, he told them how he was going to help protect the great lakes. This can be an honest mistake, but if you are going to send something out at least you should do your homework. |
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05-03-2008, 02:54 PM
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#333 | | Senior Member
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| I agree completely, epiphany. After eight years of having a bumble-mouthed moron in the White House, I'm craving someone brilliant, intellectual, well-spoken, calm and cerebral. Yes, Obama has some issues of his own, but nothing deserving of the hateful bile spewed all over him in this thread. Clinton, who I've always liked, has run a sad, fear-mongering, generally revolting campaign. And yes, when this extremely smart, well-educated woman gets up on stage and pretends she's just one of the "good 'ol gals," well, I for one, find it offensive. |
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05-03-2008, 03:11 PM
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#334 | | Junior Member
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And yes, when this extremely smart, well-educated woman gets up on stage and pretends she's just one of the "good 'ol gals," well, I for one, find it offensive.
| Hindoo, this is why the Democrats don't win the White House. A lot of people will want to have a beer with Bush, but I don't think those same people would want to have caviar and quiche with John Kerry. If you are serving the people you have to be seen as one of them, the moment they sense an aura of elitism arround you they wont vote for you.
The Republican Party, which I think has more elitists than the Democratic party, has mastered the art of being like the common folks. It's no wonder that they controlled the white house for a lot longer than the other party for the last couple of decades. The leaders of the Democratic Party are seen as elitist and out of touch with the people.
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05-03-2008, 03:13 PM
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#335 | | Senior Member
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| I've quietly observed these past few days while various posters slammed Obama over and over again with increasing venom. Well, we all have our opinions, and a right to them, I might add. Here's mine. I'm a middled-aged, educated, middle-class caucasian woman from the "heartland" who plans to vote for Obama. I do not believe that he is a racist, an Islamic terrorist, an elitist who despises the working class, an uninformed lightweight, a spineless jellyfish, or a rabid idealogue who would jeapodarize our safety, deliberately or out of incompetence. OK, let the attacks begin. |
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05-03-2008, 03:14 PM
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#336 | | Senior Member
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| tega, Unfortunately, you have a point. I've always wondered why Americans would rather have an evil moron (Bush) they could hoist a beer with rather than a president who was actually intelligent and thoughtful. It wasn't always this way. FDR would never be elected today because he wouldn't have been able to play the clown well enough to satisfy the masses. |
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05-03-2008, 03:15 PM
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#337 | | Senior Member
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The Republican Party, which I think has more elitist than the Democratic party, has mastered the art of being like the common folks.
| Crazy, isn't it? By any measure, the Republicans carry the water of elite interests.
It just goes to show how politically brain-dead the Democrats really are. They just love cerebral, detached, aloof snobbish candidates that any decent opponent can lampoon up one side and down the other. |
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05-03-2008, 03:17 PM
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#338 | | Junior Member
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| I don't think I have slammed Obama, I have presented some of the reasons why I don't support him, and I think they are very legitimate reasons. They all deal with the issues that are important to me. |
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05-03-2008, 03:19 PM
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#339 | | Senior Member
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| No, interesteddad. I'm not politically brain-dead. I'm just scared to freaking death--with the extremely low standards America seems to set for its successful presidential material--that we'll continue to have Bush-like presidencies for the foreseeable future. Maybe when we're so diminished in the world's eyes, so bankrupted by our immoral, endless wars, and on a par with a Third World country, people will wake up and stop lampooning those pathetic "aloof, snobbish" candidates who might have actually made things better. |
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05-03-2008, 03:21 PM
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#340 | | Senior Member
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I've always wondered why Americans would rather have an evil moron (Bush) they could hoist a beer with rather than a president who was actually intelligent and thoughtful.
| Look at the candidates the Dems threw against Bush.
In 2000, Gore had the charisma of a wooden Indian and a braintrust that decided it would be brilliant to distance him from a two-term Democratic President with a country at peace, a strong economy, and a budget surplus.
We don't even need to talk about John Kerry. Certainly the worst candidate since Mike Dukakis. Maybe the worst candidate in history. People in Massachusetts can't even stand the guy. |
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05-03-2008, 03:23 PM
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#341 | | Senior Member
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I don't think I have slammed Obama
| Anything short of bowing to the shrine of Saint Obama is considered to be "slamming" him. We are expect to gasp in awe at his divine aura and godliness. |
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05-03-2008, 03:25 PM
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#342 | | Senior Member
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No, interesteddad. I'm not politically brain-dead. I'm just scared to freaking death--with the extremely low standards America seems to set for its successful presidential material--that we'll continue to have Bush-like presidencies for the foreseeable future.
| Then I would recommend figuring out what attributes it takes to stake out the crucial high ground in the center of the political spectrum and win national elections.
I won't have any problem voting for Clinton or McCain. They are both experienced and tough. |
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05-03-2008, 03:25 PM
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#343 | | Senior Member
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| That kind of sarcasm is sickening. |
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05-03-2008, 03:30 PM
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#344 | | Senior Member
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I've quietly observed these past few days while various posters slammed Obama over and over again with increasing venom. Well, we all have our opinions, and a right to them, I might add. Here's mine. I'm a middled-aged, educated, middle-class caucasian woman from the "heartland" who plans to vote for Obama. I do not believe that he is a racist, an Islamic terrorist, an elitist who despises the working class, an uninformed lightweight, a spineless jellyfish, or a rabid idealogue who would jeapodarize our safety, deliberately or out of incompetence. OK, let the attacks begin.
| I don't think he's any of those. I do think he's going to take our country dramatically to the left and increase the % of our economy which is under the auspices of the federal government. |
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05-03-2008, 03:31 PM
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#345 | | Senior Member
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Crazy, isn't it? By any measure, the Republicans carry the water of elite interests.
It just goes to show how politically brain-dead the Democrats really are. They just love cerebral, detached, aloof snobbish candidates that any decent opponent can lampoon up one side and down the other.
| Well, the Republican party is more anti-immigration than the Democratic party. That is an 'every man' cause. |
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