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04-28-2008, 01:08 PM
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| Love him or hate him, Wright is doing the Obama campaing no favors by extending his stay in the spotlight. | 
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04-28-2008, 01:29 PM
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| RatedPG: It's because you're listening to his words in sound bites and only the parts you want to listen to. | |
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04-28-2008, 01:32 PM
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| 3bm103, sorry, but no. I have listened to more than "sound bites" and have heard far more than I want to hear from the ?former? spiritual advisor of a man who has a chance of being my next president. | |
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04-28-2008, 01:39 PM
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| From some of the comments on this thread it is obvious that a certain element in this country prefer to live in denial. As O'Reilly once said on his show at Faux News, "Americans do not like to be told they are wrong." | |
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04-28-2008, 01:56 PM
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I'm really dumbfounded by the views on this thread.
| So am I. Blame it on the media.
Clearly, we all know (because the media won't stop mentioning it) that Rev. Wright served his country honorably and voluntarily in the Marines and the Navy, which is more than can be said about the bigoted, hate-mongering, anti-American, multi-millionaire Pastor Hagee whose endorsement John McCain actively and diligently sought and was "very proud" to have even though he didn't sit in the good pastor's pews for some 20 years (to which I say an expedient bully for McCain). But, due to media inattention, how many of us know that Rev. Wright isn't itching for America to go to war with Iran in order to hasten the end-times and fulfill biblical prophecy? The media coverage is clearly unfair to Rev. Hagee! For every single mention of Rev. Wright on TV or radio, there should be a concurrent mention of Pastor Hagee. For every media-broadcast soundbite of Rev. Wright, there should be a media blitzkrieg of YouTube clips from Pastor Hagee's more colorful sermons. For the Lord said Let there be more nutty white fringe-right political-influence-seeking-and-peddling evangelical ministers on the news!
Geez. You'd think we were electing a Pope or an ayatollah instead of a president. | |
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04-28-2008, 02:03 PM
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Love him or hate him, Wright is doing the Obama campaing no favors by extending his stay in the spotlight
| The people who are turned off completely by Wright are most likely not those who would vote for Obama, anyway. However, the more Wright is heard, the more people will see the context of the few outrageous statements he has made and the less of an issue it will be for those who may have been leaning toward Obama but are concerned that he is too radical.
But, besides that, this is a conversation this country needs to have.This is bigger than Wright, Obama or the election. | |
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04-28-2008, 02:32 PM
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I don't know how much Wright influenced Sen. Obama, but I do know Wright is not a man to be trusted or followed.
| Married the Obamas. Baptized their children. "Spiritual Advisor" for 20 years.
Oprah resigned as a member of Rev. Wright's church as a response to his "teachings". | |
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04-28-2008, 02:46 PM
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| Obama campaign surrogate Dana Milbank in his WaPo blog today: Quote:
Should it become necessary in the months from now to identify the moment that doomed Obama's presidential aspirations, attention is likely to focus on the hour between nine and ten this morning at the National Press Club. It was then that Wright, Obama's longtime pastor, reignited a controversy about race from which Obama had only recently recovered - and added lighter fuel.
Speaking before an audience that included Marion Barry, Cornel West, Malik Zulu Shabazz of the New Black Panther Party and Nation of Islam official Jamil Muhammad, Wright praised Louis Farrakhan, defended the view that Zionism is racism, accused the United States of terrorism, repeated his view that the government created the AIDS virus to cause the genocide of racial minorities, stood by other past remarks ("God damn America") and held himself out as a spokesman for the black church in America....
Wright also argued, at least four times over the course of the hour, that he was speaking not for himself but for the black church...
That significantly complicates Obama's job as he contemplates how to extinguish Wright's latest incendiary device. Now, he needs to do more than express disagreement with his former pastor's view; he needs to refute his former pastor's suggestion that Obama privately agrees with him.
| Rough Sketch - (washingtonpost.com) | |
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04-28-2008, 02:49 PM
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| Why do we care about what someone's pastor said/says? It's just a distraction from real issues IMO. We have a strong Christian currently in the White House and things couldn't be worse in this country. I don't care what church, temple, mosque etc our next president attends, I just want someone who can bring people together to make a positive change in our government. | |
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04-28-2008, 02:50 PM
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| Read the editorial posted on Fox by one of the executive VPs of Fox, probably in charge of politics. I know that it is on Fox, but, OUCH!
Reverend Wright will not sell well in mainstream America, and too many people are going to feel the way this editorialist feels - personally attacked. | |
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04-28-2008, 03:00 PM
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| I completely agree with PrimetimeMom. Wright is a distraction from the real issues.
Personally I am much more concerned about the price of gas and the war in Iraq.
I don't even really know what the role of a "spiritual adviser" is, nor do I care. 
I do care about pardoning criminals and taking money from lobbyists to whom you owe favors if elected. I care about the truth.
I am much more concerned about a candidate's lying than about what a candidate's spiritual adviser may say or do.
Is it ok to be completely unethical as long as you don't associate with a controversial spiritual adviser? I still don't get it. I guess I never will. 
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04-28-2008, 03:09 PM
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I do care about pardoning criminals and taking money from lobbyists to whom you owe favors if elected.
| From yesterday's LA Times: Obama donor received a state grant - Los Angeles Times Quote:
WASHINGTON -- After an unsuccessful campaign for Congress in 2000, Illinois state Sen. Barack Obama faced serious financial pressure: numerous debts, limited cash and a law practice he had neglected for a year. Help arrived in early 2001 from a significant new legal client -- a longtime political supporter.
Chicago entrepreneur Robert Blackwell Jr. paid Obama an $8,000-a-month retainer to give legal advice to his growing technology firm, Electronic Knowledge Interchange. It allowed Obama to supplement his $58,000 part-time state Senate salary for over a year with regular payments from Blackwell's firm that eventually totaled $112,000.
A few months after receiving his final payment from EKI, Obama sent a request on state Senate letterhead urging Illinois officials to provide a $50,000 tourism promotion grant to another Blackwell company, Killerspin.
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04-28-2008, 03:12 PM
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| Sorry I'd, I won't go there. Suffice it to say that the Clintons have lots of explaining to do about their finances. The fact that they refuse to answer questions now is fine.
However, this may ultimately be one of the many reasons for Hillary's ultimate demise.
She can't just lie or refuse to answer questions forever. Those days are gone, Bill Clinton or not. The dynasty is no longer. Her vetting will come. | |
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04-28-2008, 03:16 PM
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| That's OK. Obama "laundered" Blackwell's payments through his law firm, including Blackwell as just one of hundreds of clients on his ethics disclosure forms, despite the fact that Blackwell accounted for nearly 100% of Obama's law firm revenue during that period.
Oh. Blackwell's EKI client list? 100% Chicago city and Illinois state goverment agencies. | |
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