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Old 05-05-2008, 05:37 PM   #31
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I think Hillary's support of him would be half-hearted.
Hillary Clinton has campaigned hard for Democratic Party candidates and issues since she got her start registering Latino/a voters to vote for George McGovern in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas.

She and her husband even did fundraisers for an unknown candidate for Senate in Illinois back in 2004.

To question her Democratic Party bona fides is a low blow. Almost as low as sending a campaign co-chairman on national TV to call her a racist who didn't care about the victims of Katrina.

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Old 05-05-2008, 05:44 PM   #32
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Interested Dad, just what is your premise for saying that Obama has "surrounded himself" with the likes of Farrakhan, Sharpton et al? And what's with your knock of Congressman Clyburn? That fellow didn't get into the House leadership by being on the extremes or being a whack. Comments like yours always amaze me in that they stereotype relatively conservative Black Democrats like Clyburn as though they were ideological classmates and of Jerry Rubin, Mark Rudd and Huey Newton. Clyburn deserves proper respect. Incidentally, Clyburn has endorsed NO ONE in the current presidential primary season.
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Old 05-05-2008, 05:52 PM   #33
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Lakewashington, if you listen to Clyburn he has already endorsed Obama, but not officially.
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Interested Dad, just what is your premise for saying that Obama has "surrounded himself" with the likes of Farrakhan, Sharpton et al?
Because it's true. A 20 year association with racist Wright. Marched with racist Farrakhan in the Million Man March. Didn't object when his pastor gave Farrakhan an award. Obama worked for terrorist bomber Ayers for eight years and announced his first run for office in a press conference held on the steps of Ayers' house.

Sharpton, Kerry, and Chappaquidick Kid are campaigning for Obama.

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I give him the respect a Democrat who has participated in the racial swiftboating of a former President deserves. None.

Clyburn hasn't been neutral in this race. He's been lying because claiming neutrality was part of the deal for the DNC to reward the ridiculously Republican South Carolina with an early primary to pander to the African American wing.

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Old 05-05-2008, 06:00 PM   #35
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Along these lines, how would you denigrate his niece, Caroline Kennedy?
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Along these lines, how would you denigrate his niece, Caroline Kennedy?
Why? Has she killed a woman, too?
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Wow, so everyone whom participated in the Million Man March was a drooling racist? Even the Black fathers who came to demonstrate and advocate for strong families and responsible husbands?
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Old 05-05-2008, 06:12 PM   #38
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And by the way, the concept of an early SC Democrat primary pre-dates the current political season. As I recall, it was the offspring of the orignial southern state 'Super Tuesday' in 1988. It certainly wasn't bestowed as a gift to Black Democrats.
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Old 05-05-2008, 06:36 PM   #39
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Wow, so everyone whom participated in the Million Man March was a drooling racist?
Obama was an organizer of the Farrakhan's march and is now fudging the truth about his ties to the racist leader.
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Old 05-05-2008, 06:48 PM   #40
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paying3tuitions - I really like your King Solomon analogy. It's perfect. Your calm, sage voice is appreciated.
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Old 05-05-2008, 07:03 PM   #41
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"White Democratic party voters don't like being called racist, as the Obama campaign and its surrogates did in an effort to explain humiliating losses in NH, OH, and PENN."


NH??? How was NH a humiliating loss? Both Clinton and Obama got 9 delegates there!

It was Iowa that was a very humiliating loss for Clinton. She liked going in to NH as the alleged underdog so that her surrogates could name her the "comeback kid" when she tied Obama. She really didn't blow the socks off anyone in NH! She really should have. Remember her original national campaign co-chairman was Billy Sheehan (before he got fired for bringing up Obama's "drug use".) Billy was the husband of the ex-Governor of NH. Of course Clinton should have done well there. In fact, she should have done better than she did with all that powerful democratic support gunning for her in NH.

The only ones that predicted an inaccurate outcome for NH were the *pollsters* and the media.

Pennsylvania wasn't a humiliating loss either. If you remember, Clinton was up by 20 points a few months prior to the PA primary. The fact that Obama came within 9 points was actually considered a very good showing for him, better than expected.

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Old 05-05-2008, 07:11 PM   #42
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Hillary Clinton began her political career as a volunteer for Barry Goldwater, she was proudly a "Goldwater Girl". She is, was and will always be a political opportunist, pandering to WHATEVER will move her ahead personally.

Her other "alliances" have been working for a law firm with other attorneys who were acknowledged communists. From Goldwater then to communists... where and for what does this woman stand for. She stands for the advancement of Hillary Clinton at any costs and regardless of the consequences to her party, to this country.

The most accurate statement made in this campaign was from the Obama campaign worker who called Senator Clinton a "monster".

The woman will do and say ANYTHING. She has her view and her vision not unlike the same stubborn minded divisive attitude of our current President. This is the woman who will "obliterate" another sovereign nation and wants to bring you another administration of "us vs. them".

Here's hoping and praying that tomorrow brings an end to her campaign.
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Old 05-05-2008, 07:24 PM   #43
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She was 16 years old when Barry Goldwater ran for President. Someone who actually knows something about Clinton could have picked a much better example. In 1968, while at Wellesley, she summer interned for Congressman Mel Laird (later Sec of Defense) at the Republican Congressional election committee. She attended the Republican Convention in Miami while working for Laird and then attended the Democratic convention in Chicago the same summer as an unpaid McCarthy volunteer. She was head of the Wellesley Republicans when she started campaigning for McCarthy. But, of couse, you know absolutely nothing about Clinton so you picked the absurd attack that she was Goldwater girl in high school.

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Her other "alliances" have been working for a law firm with other attorneys who were acknowledged communists. From Goldwater then to communists...
Wow, I'm shocked that Ken Starr missed the fact that there were Communists working in the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock, Arizona. Amazing. I never in a million years would have pegged a Brooks Bros. corporate law firm in Little Rock, Arkansas of all places as a hotbed of "communism". Have you shared this with the FBI?

I assume that you are all befuddled with mixed up stories and are talking about the college senior thesis she wrote about Chicago community organizer Saul Alinsky, who has probably been cited for Communist "leanings". Clinton turned down a job with Alinsky after college and instead worked with Marian Wright Edelman's Childrens Defense Fund during Yale Law School.

Rose is the only law firm Clinton has ever worked for. She worked for the Sentate Watergate Committee. And, she was appointed to the Legal Services Corporation by Jimmy Carter and later became chairman of that national organization provides legal services for indigent clients. It's an quasi-independent agency of the federal government.

You might be confusing Clinton with Obama. He did go to work for some Alinsky derivative community groups in Chicago and studied his techniques. Omaba's father was a Marxist. His grandfather was a member of the Communist Party. But, I wouldn't hold that against Obama.

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Old 05-05-2008, 07:34 PM   #44
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yeah and Obama is aligned with Farrakahn. And you insulting me that I know nothing. Who appointed you the purveyor of facts and truth. Just like your gal, you will say and twist anything and insult people and stamp your little feet when they say something you don't care for.

But thanks for making one point for truth, as a Young Republican she supported McCarthy. Again, sir, not unlike you she will do and say anything to further herself (a Republican for McCarthy), and like you, will be rude, divisive and insulting.

She stands for NOTHING but herself and I find no surprise that you support that.
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Old 05-05-2008, 07:38 PM   #45
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And i believe you are forgetting her work in 1971 for the firm of Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein, members of which were admitted communists.
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