bullwinkle

In response to post #65, if it really is of interest to you, yes I am most definitely an Obama supporter. Among other things, I just returned from Indiana after traveling 2000 miles to get there to work for a week for the campaign.

And my complete distaste for Clinton has nothing to do with my support of Obama, they are mutually exclusive concepts. Quite briefly I find her to be completely dishonest, she stands for nothing but for herself and her obsession for power. She started her political life as a Goldwater supporter, then a college "young republican" then a sudden switch to McCarthy, point being she will go with and pander to and for any cause or concept that will further her personal aspirations. Her tactics are NOTHING less than Rovian.

In this election alone she has flat out LIED about her experience including this nonsense with Bosnia, her feigned work with the N. Ireland accords, SChip legislation, etc. Her latest with the gas tax "holiday" is just more political pandering and her pronouncement that she doesn't "care" what the economists say, tells me she is as pigheaded and out of touch as the current administration and as much as mccain, she is nothing less than Bush III.

Her other exultations that she will obliterate Iran, etc. is typical of her "us vs. them" bullying approach which is why her efforts at health care as first lady were a complete and total failure as would be her presidency. Her race baiting is completely inexcusable and this idiocy of claiming Michigan should be counted when Obama was not even on the ballot and she signed pledges that FLA and Michigan would not be counted. She is the poster girl for situational ethics which is a terrifying quality for someone in power.

Again, yes I am an Obama supporter but that has nothing to do with wanting to see no more of the Clinton name.

zoosermom

"Why zoosermom, whatever do you mean....?"

Just sayin' is all. Just sayin.

barrons

To assert that someone who was a youthful conservative and later switched as she grew up is pandering shows your own youthful ignorance.

RatedPG

It's quite amusing to hear Obama supporters spend all their time pointing out Clinton's flaws and failures rather than focusing on Obama's accomplishments. Oh right, what accomplishments?

Well at least they could spend some time expounding Obama's vision and platform.... oh-oh, "change" and "we can" .... yes these are very short (and empty) words.

So now I get it.

Hunt

If Clinton stops attacking Obama, I suspect you may see her in the Cabinet.

vicariousparent

Razorsharp, I was with you for a bit there until you said that Hillary would be a "uniter".

Only true if you mean uniting the Republicans against her.

No question Obama has a very difficult job ahead of him, but at least he has a fighting chance. Hillary has none.

zoosermom

"John McCain would have us in Iraq ad infinitum. We would squander untold billions and thousands of lives. It would be the ruination of us."

Oh really now. Do you consider South Korea the "ruination of us?"

mini

The analogy isn't apt. South Korea WELCOMED the U.S. in. Saudi Arabia, and every other Arab country except Kuwait (one of our owners), kicked us out.

The fact that McCain would even use such an analogy shows how inept he is when it comes to foreign policy issues. (Hopefully by now his handlers have helped him figure what Sunnis and Shias are, that Iranians aren't Arabs, and the difference between Germany and France.)

3bm103

"She's hoping for a deal in which she agrees to drop out and support Obama enthusiastically and he agrees to raise money for her debt."

I must just be totally clueless then. Why on earth would he want to do that? I can't imagine Obama supporters thinking that their donations going to Clinton's debt would be a good idea.

Bullwinkle: very well put.

zoosermom

"The analogy isn't apt. South Korea WELCOMED the U.S. in. Saudi Arabia, and every other Arab country except Kuwait (one of our owners), kicked us out."
In terms of the long view, it is apt.

Hunt

How many American soldiers have been killed in Korea since the end of combat operations?

zoosermom

"How many American soldiers have been killed in Korea since the end of combat operations?"
THat is a valid point, but it obscures the point that Senator McCain was making and the point that I was making which was clear in that 100 years isn't six.

poetsheart

What's the difference? Aren't they functionally the same person? A vote for her is a vote for him. If she were to win the Presidency, it would amount to his third term.

poetsheart

hummm.....might you perhaps have been having a little confab with the ghost of Ron Brown recently....

bullwinkle

re: post #93 again showing your usual ignorance and tunnel vision, the point wasn't simply her "changes" in her youth, that is her life long pattern of going whichever way the wind will best take her career.

But thanks for the "youthful" compliment (although again showing your presumption and ignorance since you have no idea how old I am).