I'm sick of gay agenda being pushed by Hollywood - Page 5

zoosermom · 10-31-2008, 04:38 PM

^^ I also like wedding cake. Gay cake. Straight cake. All the same to me. Unless it's fruit filled. Which actually is an abomination.

I read an article recently about gay marriage in which one of the grooms indicated that being a gay man and getting married is tough these days because straight America fetishizes gay style to such a degree that the pressure to have a spectacular event is harsh.

xiggi · 10-31-2008, 04:41 PM

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for the record - my discomfort with the show had nothing to do with the same sex relationship - it was the gratuitous sex and the "TMI" feeling. I am a bit of a prude, but I love to see a love story whether gay, straight whatever. They could have done a better job ( I think) of portraying their confusion and hesitation, but I guess the show is geared towards a diiferent demographic than me.

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I didn't see the show

I am wondering how many of the respondents, especially the ones who chastised the OP, did SEE the episode in question.

I believe that the posters who advocated to "not watch what you do not like" are missing the point that a very popular show might not need to include gratuitous sex scenes, especially scenes depicting alternatives lifestyles. This has really NOTHING to do about gay life or acceptance but everything to do about what has become acceptable on our national TV scene.

Fwiw, if the Hollywood writers wanted to push an agenda and add to the sensitivity of the viewing audience, they'd better portray stories that are a lot less crude and nasty. And that is exactly what the Grey scene was.

ucmomhopeful · 10-31-2008, 04:49 PM

As a mother of 3 kids, oldest just started UC San Diego, I am proud and warm hearted to read all these positive threads! I live in Rancho Palos Verdes, CA, a very conservative right winged area, however was so honored and priveledged to host a wedding in my home 2 weeks ago for my sister and her new "wife" It was the most loving, natural affair to witness and was attended by family of both sides. My two children (oldest couldn't come down due to mid terms) participated in the ceremony and to them, it was nothing but a joining of 2 people very much in love. Here's to "NO ON 8 this coming Tuesday!!!"

Northstarmom · 10-31-2008, 04:51 PM

"I believe that the posters who advocated to "not watch what you do not like" are missing the point that a very popular show might not need to include gratuitous sex scenes, especially scenes depicting alternatives lifestyles. This has really NOTHING to do about gay life or acceptance but everything to do about what has become acceptable on our national TV scene. "

At least two of us have said that in addition to advising people to not watch shows that depict things against your values, we also don't like shows that show explicit sex scenes of any kind.

I have watched TV less than 10 times this year (mainly the debates). I also rarely go to movies. Why? I hate the profanity, violence, and explicit sex scenes that are prevalent on the large and small screen. I love seeing romance on screen, including gay romance. I don't want, however, to feel like a peeping Tom or a porno enthusiast when I watching TV or a film.

musicamusica · 10-31-2008, 04:51 PM

I dont watch this show ,I find most televsion pretty pedestrain AND I didnt see the episode in question. But the OP's objection was on the "gay agenda" not specifically on the gratuitous sex. A Gay lifestyle is not an "alternative lifestye". Gay people are gay. There is no alternative, God and biology made them what they are.
again: NO ON PROP 8

jym626 · 10-31-2008, 04:53 PM

***** follow the bouncing thread******* is this a thread for the cafe or the politics subforum????

musicamusica · 10-31-2008, 04:58 PM

Maybe because for those of us in California, this is a politcal thread.

NO ON PROP 8

aibarr · 10-31-2008, 04:59 PM

I read the original post and my heart hurt.

Over the past five pages, my heart has grown warmer again.

God loves everyone, miltonmom, and He teaches us to love everyone. Even if you do believe that homosexuality is a sin (and I don't believe that it is), it is not our prerogative as humans to act with hate towards what we think is wrong. Live your definition of a righteous and sober life, but do not act with hate. You'll help this world far more with your love than you will with attacks and condemnation.

I do agree with you about TV having become far too graphic, though. Whatever happened to the Cosby Show? =(

jym626 · 10-31-2008, 05:05 PM

musicamusica-
I agree with you-- I think this belongs back in the politics thread--- but... no matter I guess. Though maybe more Calif. posters will see this thread here in the cafe and vote no on Prop. 8. Good luck-- I wish I could vote against it from this side of the country.

intparent · 10-31-2008, 05:06 PM

Xiggi, the reason this post has drawn the response it has is because miltonmom is appalled because the show was about GAY sex, not just sex in general. Where is her indignation about all of the straight sex that is so prevelant in the media today? That wasn't her point.

3bm103 · 10-31-2008, 05:09 PM

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I am wondering how many of the respondents, especially the ones who chastised the OP, did SEE the episode in question.

I haven't actually chastised the OP yet, and I DID see the show. Personally, I didn't think the episode in question had gratuitous sex. Many episodes have been much worse (or better depending on your point of view). Doesn't matter anyway, because the OP was complaining about it being GAY sex. Considering some of the other episodes this show has had, this was rather tame.

I too gave it some time before I responded due to how upsetting the OP was. It saddens me that there are still people who think that way. I hope the OP doesn't ever have a child who is gay, for the sake of the child.

starbright · 10-31-2008, 05:10 PM

Xiggi, my chastisement of the OP came from the title of her thread. I actually a fan of the show, but not a fan of crude sex nor violence on TV. Where I strongly disagree with the OP is with the main point of the thread, which is hollywood having a 'gay agenda' because homosexuality is acceptable on TV.

Mary13 · 10-31-2008, 05:21 PM

I’m not fond of much that appears on TV these days either (but I certainly don't care if it's gay or straight!) My issue is with the OP’s comment, “First they want us to condone what is a sin in God's eyes.” How can anyone presume to know the mind of God?

MomofWildChild · 10-31-2008, 05:28 PM

I did watch the episode, and was more disturbed by the sex occurring in the workplace between the male/female (which also involved the female cheating on her same-sex lover). To me, it was THAT sex which was gratuitous. I would love to be the HR Manager or in-house counsel at that hospital.......

ironmetal250 · 10-31-2008, 05:31 PM

Just wondering, do you guys consider bisexuals as gays who don't want to come completely out of the closet? Because that's kind of the feel I get from most people who talk about bisexuals.