DonnaL

No. I know there are gay people (particularly gay men) who believe that, but it's as arrogant and offensive for them to presume what's really in someone else's heart as it is for people to make unfounded assumptions about gay people. Some people are as genuinely bisexual as others are genuinely straight or gay. And there are lots of people at various other points along the spectrum, too -- the good old Kinsey scale wasn't so wrong.

Northstarmom

"Just wondering, do you guys consider bisexuals as gays who don't want to come completely out of the closet? Because that's kind of the feel I get from most people who talk about bisexuals."

Some are really gays who aren't comfortable coming out of the closet. Some are really people who are attracted to both genders.

maysixxmom

This is my take on all the different types of people/lifestyles/etc FWIW. If we are, as noted in one theory, all created in God's reflection, that god must see many different things when gazing into the mirror.

Consolation

Having read the original post, my immediate reaction was "Thank doG, I'm a Unitarian."

Our first principle is that we respect the worth and dignity of every individual.

Oh, and I'm sick of "the Christian agenda" being pushed by our government. (Not that it bears much resemblance to what we know about the teachings of the man, Jesus, of course.)

magneticpoet

Oh my God, another Unitarian!

My minister is gay... and way more into the Christian heritage of UUism than my straight girl minister. Take that how you will.

fairyblood

It is interesting to me that people think that both sex and violence or on the same leavl. To me they are completely different. I don't like a lot of violence but sex I am much more indifferent and enjoy a good sex scene now and then.

emeraldkity4

what irritates me about " entertainment" is product placement in movies.
Outside of films like " thank you for smoking", I do not want to see glamourized drug use- and that includes characters who always have a drink or smoke in their hand.
Not to mention sex without mention of contraceptives-

( gratuitous violence I don't like either- didn't see Country for old men- even though love Javier Bardem & didn't even see Daniel Day Lewis in "There will be Blood" or "Gangs of New York,"although the first film I saw him in " My Beautiful Laundrette "was very good.)

Stupid I also hate. I hate it when movies are supposed to be " funny" by making dads/secretaries/teachers... or any group look stupid.


However if you combine all the above into Monty Python- that I love.

littlegreenmom

Xiggi,

Although I commented on the gay/lesbian aspect earlier, I didn't comment on the Grey's Anatomy scenes from last week and this week.

At the risk of sounding prudish (which I do not consider myself), I think last week's episode did have too much information. The envelope keeps getting pushed further and further, and I think it was less loving and more crude. Instead of a loving act, it did have the gratuitous element to me. And, quite frankly, if it had been (as it was in this weeks episode) a man/woman, it was still gratuitous. Done for ratings, as much as anything else.

I think they could have illustrated the confusion of these women in a better way. Clearly, they were both confused and conflicted. The scene where the doctor describes needing glasses when she was a child was highly emotional, and lovely.

The one where Callie tells her to take off her pants - not so much. And when the male plastic surgeon said the same to Callie, well, it was almost as if the series jumped the shark, to me. Really, did we have to make those scenes so dirty?

By that I mean, I felt that the writers wanted us to be talking about it at the water cooler (and in virtual land). Bad publicity is still good publicity. They got us talking, didn't they?

But I think this show, like many others has been doing this with many of their storylines. The fact that the show is on at 9 pm probably annoyed me more than anything.

intparent

magneticpoet, UU here, too.

TourGuide446

To those who wish to separate violence and sex, you might want to pass a memo to all the women who get obsessed with guys in prison, the gals who date O.J. Simpson, the gals who flock to boxers, etc.

cartera45

I must be really old - I was too worried about Wilbur and Babe to notice the sex.

littlegreenmom

I did like the Wilbur and Babe part of the show. I do think that when doctors have that kind of experience, they see things differently. Working on a simulator is good practice, but no excuse for the real thing.

emeraldkity4

wilbur and babe- the only thing that comes to mind is pigs?

Re: OP, I worry about people who feel that others have such an impact on their own opinions. They worry that if they are exposed at all to " popular" media- books/film/music ... that they will change their values or beliefs- despite themselves.
How strong are their values if they are so easily swayed?

They are worried about their children, being exposed to ideas that run counter to those that they would prefer they stick to. Then why send them to college? Isn't the point of broadening your viewpoint/perspective- is to have more of the whole picture?

If you only associate with those who agree with you- you have a much narrower view of the world- and that is sad, because the world is a wild, interesting and exciting place.

gdorf

It saddens me that ignorance like that propagated by the OP continues to play such a prominent role in the public discourse of the nation. It gladdens me that so many others are obviously willing to embrace and accept instead of hate and marginalize. Would that more of America could be like the posters here. It will happen, I suspect - but it will take time.

cptofthehouse

If any topic is offensive or so poorly done that it makes me uncomfortable and bored, I do not watch it. I guess if it were my job to watch and assess those things, I would, but it is not, so I as well as most of us can just push a button a remote. How difficult is that? If enough people do this, there will be less programing of that sort.