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Old 11-01-2008, 08:35 AM   #91
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wilbur and babe- the only thing that comes to mind is pigs?
That's because they WERE pigs (in the show)!
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:54 AM   #92
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EmeraldKitty,

To explain further, there were pigs on the show! The new trauma doc brought in half a dozen live pigs and then created a stab wound in each, had them hooked up to the machines and ready to operate on. It was an exercise in saving the pigs lives, as they have similar organs and nervous systems.

One doctor was appalled at the clear abuse of animals (Izzy) and another (Christina) seemed to almost think it was beneath her. Both learned much from the exercise.
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Old 11-01-2008, 01:32 PM   #93
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Okay, a couple of comments here:

No one is making you watch anything. Change the flipping channel! Write the advertisers! Whatever! So what if they're trying to get your attention? You don't have to pay attention.

As for homosexuality: I decided many years ago that homosexuality had to be inborn and quite immutable when I read that the military tried shock treatments during WWII to convert homosexual men to straight behavior. That didn't work. Now, if it was a choice, wouldn't you choose to avoid shock treatment? Yeah, like gay people just beg to be ostracized, abused, deprived of their rights. I'd choose that over society's acceptance any day.
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Old 11-01-2008, 01:46 PM   #94
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interesting- I don't watch greys anatomy but I know my 18 year old used to like it. Isn't it supposed to be set in Seattle?

I don't follow most tv shows- couldn't remember what night they were on anyway- I do like watching them on my own schedule online though, even if the shows are a bit delayed.

the shows my D and I like to watch are Pushing Daisies, House & Burn Notice.
While there is some sex/violence implied- nothing really graphic & we are grownups.

Plus- read a book! we really don't have to turn to TV for entertainment. ( I recommend Charlottes Web)
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Old 11-01-2008, 01:48 PM   #95
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Dear pugmadkate. Your post moved me to tears. The OP's views are NOT the majority.
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:01 PM   #96
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Being that the rights of gay people is my most important issue I hope the majority feeling on this thread are the prevalent feeling in the country. I have a feeling that you are just a bunch of liberal "nuts" and that your elite educations have brain washed you into helping those gays ruin the country for all those god fearing patriots.
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:07 PM   #97
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At the risk of sounding prudish (which I do not consider myself), I think last week's episode did have too much information. The envelope keeps getting pushed further and further, and I think it was less loving and more crude. Instead of a loving act, it did have the gratuitous element to me. And, quite frankly, if it had been (as it was in this weeks episode) a man/woman, it was still gratuitous. Done for ratings, as much as anything else. Really, did we have to make those scenes so dirty?

By that I mean, I felt that the writers wanted us to be talking about it at the water cooler (and in virtual land). Bad publicity is still good publicity. They got us talking, didn't they?
Obviously, I do agree about the sex being gratuitous and ... dirty. When it comes to the writers, I believe that the OP did call it right that they had the intention of pushing an "agenda" but this is also no longer an agenda but Hollywood's mainstream. As far as being successful, they might get people to talk around the watercooler, but they also face the result of people simply turning away. Those "agenda" writers did ruin a good show! At this stage, a show that was slightly edgy and interesting has turned into a cesspool that is hardly appropriate for a national family TV audience.

In my opinion, it also confirms that the writers of this show are grasping at straws to salvage a show that has lost its appeal. Showing characters that have the social skills of apes and the sexual affinities of rabbits does not make for a very endearing show! I fuflly expect this show to be cancelled, and considering the latest episodes, this would not be a day too early.
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:08 PM   #98
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I have a feeling that you are just a bunch of liberal "nuts" and that your elite educations have brain washed you into helping those gays ruin the country for all those god fearing patriots.

I see that you have hardly been reading the board long- I didn't graduate from high school and my family is very blue collar so even though I was born and raised in Seattle- hardly makes me one of the " elite" and I am more independent than liberal.

But I do admit that I have met a few recent immigrants who while they consider themselves liberal in comparison from their home country, are hardly as open and accepting as they hoped this country would be to them.
However- I expect the indoctrination to take effect any day now.
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:18 PM   #99
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I hope you all know that the OP is not what the majority of Christians think.

Jesus said to love everyone equally. Hate the sin, not the sinner. I don't like homosexuality, but I have some very close friends who are homosexual or bisexual.

I voted no on Prop 8 as well.
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:20 PM   #100
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Re Grey's Anatomy: in my view, the constant relationship merry-go-round that some of the characters are on--notably Izzie, George, and Alex--devalue both the characters and the show. It's too bad.
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:34 PM   #101
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Consolation- I agree
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Old 11-01-2008, 03:09 PM   #102
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I used to watch this show every week, since it started. Now, I tivo it. Sometimes I watch it, sometimes not. Sometimes on fast forward. I agree with Xiggi. I think this show is on it's last legs. What more can they accomplish?

It started to slip when Izzie stole the heart from another patient for her love interest, and began the downward spiral with the off-camera comments of Isaiah Washington (who I think was the backbone of the show). Then the shenanigans with George and Izzie, and George and Callie, and Callie and whoever she is with. I despise Meredith and her constant whininess. Enough.

This hospital would be the last place I would want to get my leg set or an organ transplant. The doctors are too busy sleeping around and breaking rules to be performing quality medicine.

I don't think it is one particular agenda that will destroy this show. I think it is the soap opera nature of the characters that will do them in.
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Old 11-01-2008, 03:51 PM   #103
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littlegreenmom -

I think the tension and in-fighting amongst cast members has created an environment where the show just cannot move forward anymore. Not only are the characters whiny, but the real life actors/actresses are, too.
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Old 11-01-2008, 04:13 PM   #104
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Whiny Meredith makes $200K an episode.

An episode.

I am going to stop watching based on that obscenely high amount of money.
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Old 11-01-2008, 06:53 PM   #105
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Imagine if you lived in a world where everyone was gay would you be gay to satisfy them? Imagine if in the Bible Jesus told you to be gay, would you be gay? Now imagine yourself in another HUMAN being's shoes for even one moment and realize you are not the sole proprietor of truth. But what do I know I'm just an amoral atheist.

The only intolerance to be tolerated is against intolerance. Go find real things to be angry at like poverty, the AIDs crisis in Africa, and
a supposed modern government that doesn't have healthcare for every citizen; things JESUS would care about.

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