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Old 11-01-2008, 07:07 PM   #106
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I'm not sure why I keep watching it. If it gets canceled, I won't be upset, but while it remains, I watch. I guess it's because I really enjoyed it for a couple of years and I keep thinking it will get better. It hasn't. I think of shows like Friday Night Lights that are so well done with great character development that hang on by a thread.
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Old 11-01-2008, 07:34 PM   #107
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How many dramatic shows are, there, really, that remain good for more than four or five years? Which brings us back to the ER thread, I guess! Law and Order has such a distinct format that I'm not sure it's comparable to most other TV dramas except its own spinoffs.
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Old 11-01-2008, 08:29 PM   #108
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I used to love X Files. Then it got ridiculous.

I suppose you are right, Donna. The lifespan of a good dramatic show probably isn't longer than 4 or 5 years. I cannot think of one that really is terrific for that long.
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Old 11-01-2008, 08:39 PM   #109
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Hate the sin, not the sinner. I don't like homosexuality, but I have some very close friends who are homosexual or bisexual.

I voted no on Prop 8 as well.
Please explain this whole, "hate the sin, not the sinner" thing to me. I mean, I understand the semantics of it, but in the context of homosexuality, the "sin" is to act out of love. I was raised Catholic and attend Catholic school, and the Church teaches that it is okay and natural to be gay, but! Since sex is only acceptable in a context of marriage and if it is open to the creation of new life, gay people can't ever have sex. They may think they are in "love," but it can't be true love because true love is open to new life. (Again, according the the Church.)

So, if the sin is to have gay sex, the sin stems from the very nature of the sinner, does it not?
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Old 11-01-2008, 09:03 PM   #110
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If Hollywood is pushing a gay agenda, whatever that is, I'm all for it. Without going into great detail a member of my family was gay. He died far too young. When his "estate" arrived at our house I was the one to sort through it. I was proud to learn of the work he did to promote tolerance and to support gay teens. In going through those things I learned that the suicide rate among gay teens is much higher than straight teens. I suspect that this family member probably considered suicide at some point in his life.

Perhaps that show reached one of those teens comtemplating suicide and helped him/her in some way understand that there is nothing wrong with him/her. Gay and lesbian teens face a tough road. If a tv show or a movie helps them along that's great.

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Old 11-01-2008, 09:03 PM   #111
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Ya know, it feels nice not to be a closed minded bigot sometimes. You should try it.
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:42 PM   #112
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I agree with the original poster. I do believe it IS an agenda, and it's an agenda with which I don't agree.

It's a shame. But it's not surprising.

It also will not be surprising if many of you jump all over me, too, for posting my opinion. It will sound as if I am a lunatic even to have this opinion, just as it has sounded like that in regard to the original poster.

The "tolerant" are so blatantly intolerant of a conservative, Christian viewpoint.
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:42 PM   #113
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How many dramatic shows are, there, really, that remain good for more than four or five years?
How long did West Wing last? That's my all-time favorite. Next to "I Love Lucy."
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:43 PM   #114
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We're only intolerant of intolerance, LJMama.
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:48 PM   #115
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LJMama, I'm a conservative Christian and my faith tells me that gay marriage is a good and moral thing. I'm not comfortable with promiscuous, unmarried sexuality that's out in public, in my face, but I feel the same way about gay and straight relations. Keep your business to yourself.

I'd like to fix everyone up and pair everyone off. If someone wants to be paired up with someone of the same sex? Fine. Just get married, have kids, vote republican (kidding!).
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:50 PM   #116
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No, you're not. You are intolerant of allowing me to have my beliefs. You don't like that I have a belief that something might be wrong, might be sin. I am intolerant of certain behaviors in that I believe certain behaviors are sinful. I don't claim to be "tolerant." And I am speaking for myself, not necessarily "all Christians" or "all conservatives" nor necessarily "the majority." (And I do not believe that "the majority" is always "the loudest.")

Many want and proclaim tolerance, but they are, in reality, intolerant.

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in·tol·er·ant /ɪnˈtɒlərənt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[in-tol-er-uhnt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. not tolerating or respecting beliefs, opinions, usages, manners, etc., different from one's own, as in political or religious matters; bigoted.
2. unable or unwilling to tolerate or endure (usually fol. by of): intolerant of very hot weather.
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:54 PM   #117
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Keep my business to myself, zoosermom? I apologize. I thought that this was a place to share opinions. Very apparently, I'm wrong about this being a space to share opinions. I need to "keep my business to myself" if I do not agree with the majority of posters.

No wonder you (pl.) are the majority of posters. Within 6 minutes, I was stomped on twice, as predicted.
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:54 PM   #118
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LJMama, you're completely entitled to your own point of view.

I just wonder why you care what others do.
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:56 PM   #119
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Because it effects all of us. Which is why you care so deeply about my opinion.
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:57 PM   #120
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I care about your opinion because I'm chatting with you.

I'm not sure how the gay agenda affects all of us. The vulgar agenda? Yep. I don't like that one bit.
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