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11-06-2009, 08:51 AM
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#16 | | New Member
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IT IS NOT THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY that is killing them. This is a story that guys who would like to make you think they know about appliances tell you. I have many, many friends who work in a major appliance factory, everybody from the janitor to line workers to inspectors to the factory manager. They will all say the same thing -- it is the overuse of plastic parts. Parts that were once metal machined in the US have been replaced by mold injected plastic parts made who knows where for a much lower cost. While plastic has its uses, it has come to be used in inappropriate applications because of the lower cost, not because it is any more efficient. While plastic is easier to mold and is less expensive it cannot stand up to long term wear and tear the way metal parts can.
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11-06-2009, 09:18 AM
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#17 | | Member
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My Bosch is eight years old and has never had a service call. I had an Asko previously (in a different house) and had no complaints though a friend who had one had to replace the electronics when hers was two years old.
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11-06-2009, 09:21 AM
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#18 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NC not NJ
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Thanks for the feedback. That pizza story is one of the funniest things I have ever read! So the message is: Do not confuse your dishwasher with your oven, or your pizza will disappear without a trace!
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11-06-2009, 03:49 PM
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#19 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Lololu's reasoning is exactly why I suggest you run, not walk, away from a Maytag. Nothing but piddly little plastic inserts to hold and separate dishes and in the tracks. My bottom shelf has been held up by baler twine since the replacement part gave out twice on a model 3 years old.
Never again.
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11-06-2009, 04:03 PM
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#20 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Does anyone else's Bosch have a funny smell after you have loaded a few dishes in but haven't run it (because it's not full)? I always rinse the dishes before loading them but there is a persistant spoiled milk kind of smell by the next morning.
Could it have something to do with the stainless interior?
We had an old GE that ran for 19 years with no problems and it never had weird smells.
It was totally plastic on the inside.
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11-06-2009, 04:24 PM
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#21 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2004
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I've had my Bosch for a little over a year. It's been fine. We really like how quiet it is. That is the key difference between this one and our old Kenmores and Whirlpools over the years. I sometimes rinse the dishes before putting them in and haven't noticed a smell--hope that doesn't change now that I'm aware of a potential issue!
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11-06-2009, 06:12 PM
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#22 | | Member
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I never rinse; I figure if it can handle a frozen pizza it can handle anything I leave on my plate. Never noticed a smell.
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11-06-2009, 06:20 PM
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#23 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Lololu's reasoning is exactly why I suggest you run, not walk, away from a Maytag. Nothing but piddly little plastic inserts to hold and separate dishes and in the tracks. My bottom shelf has been held up by baler twine since the replacement part gave out twice on a model 3 years old.
Never again.
| I second this. I have a maytag cooktop and will never ever buy Maytag again. The knobs for turning the burners on and off are "piddly little plastic" and break very easily. We are half way through breaking our 2nd set of four in 4 years. (would be more except we move the unbroken knobs from the less used burners to the more frequently used burners). And it is just my husband and I and we are not exactly cooking 5-course meals and using every burner every day! Our previous cooktop was over 30 years old and it's knobs had never had to be replaced. Pathetic. Never again for me too!
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11-06-2009, 06:23 PM
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#24 | | Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Bosch here, again! Love how quiet it is--the only minus was that during installation, the water lines (?) run at the front, vs the old Kenmore where they were located at the rear--maybe it is just how lines were installed by builder when house was built 10 years ago, I don't know. No complaints so far w/the Bosch and I did a lot of research; number 1 priority was quiet and good cleaning features. I was less concerned with a lot of the bells and whistles that so many offer. Do your own research and esp ask a lot of people-neighbors, friends, etc. That helped me decide-good luck!
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11-07-2009, 07:44 AM
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#25 | | Junior Member
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I love my Miele. Mostly, I love the sliding tray for flatware. I think it comes out cleaner than in machines where you put the flatware in a basket. Also, the Miele is very quiet. I did research and found that Miele and Bosch were the most quiet of all machines.
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11-07-2009, 08:07 AM
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#26 | | Junior Member
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Another "never a Maytag" person here. They used to be good but are not anymore.
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11-07-2009, 08:17 AM
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#27 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Maryland
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Love my Bosch so far - I can't even tell when it's running. Hope it doesn't get the circuit board issue.
The gentleman at the appliance store said the actually function better when you don't pre-rinse - something about enzymes blah blah. I was an obsessive pre-rinser, and I don't do it anymore (did not join any sort of support group either, I managed to stop all on my own!) It cleans the dishes - apparently, what dishwashers are supposed to do.
I do not have an odor. There is the food-catchy basket thing at the bottom of the dishwasher you are supposed to empty out now and then.
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11-07-2009, 10:02 AM
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#28 | | Member
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We have had exceptional luck with Whirlpool(they also make kenmore). We have chosen a middle-of-the-road model for features, but have been very pleased. When is possible we try to buy as American as we can. We try to keep Americans working.
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11-07-2009, 11:08 AM
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#29 | | Member
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I have a 12 year old Asko which I LOVE; found water coming from underneath once, but the source was not the dishwasher. I love the quiet and the stainless interior.
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11-07-2009, 11:23 AM
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#30 | | Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
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I also have a Bosch which I like but like PackMom, it does have that weird smell under exactly the same circumstances and my bottom rack does get too full of bowls because they fit in awkwardly.
I still like it though and I think the salesman told me that the way it was built, it couldn't leak on the floor even if something went wrong with it. The old Amana dishwasher I was replacing had leaked on the hardwood floor and made two floorboards swell up. Incidentally, a friend of mine advised me to wait for a few months before repairing the floor because it might recover when it dried thoroughly. Sure enough, it almost went back to normal.
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