I guess we are buying a new dishwasher - anything but Frigidaire (merged threads) - Page 3

notre dame AL · 11-07-2009, 11:41 AM

^^We just had a refrigerator do this to hardwood floors-insurance claims rep told us the same thing--wait a couple of months and it may "heal" itself! We are so hopeful--do not want to have to go thru refinishing hardwood floors at this time. It has been about a month and we have noticed improvement.

Hekau · 11-07-2009, 12:47 PM

I have the F and P dishdrawers and love them. May I suggest however that if you're trying to save money, check out 'scratch and dents', very often you can get a great deal if you're willing to buy floor models and products that sometimes have barely noticable dings. You may have to ask if any are available, but the savings can be amazing.

Also, if you're doing homework check out Applianceadvisor.com and http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/.(they have a fantastic appliance forum)

BunsenBurner · 11-07-2009, 12:59 PM

"I still like it though and I think the salesman told me that the way it was built, it couldn't leak on the floor even if something went wrong with it."

Send that salesperson to my house and I will rub his face into the hardwood floor where the %#@&* Bosch-made dishwasher leaked!!! The thing was empty and not operating at the time!!! I came down to the kitchen one sunny Saturday morning to discover a puddle of water by the dishwasher - imagine my fury! It was a piddly little plastic part that failed (the repair costs were way beyond "piddly"). However, the stainless steel interior of the dishwasher still had its brand new look on the day we disposed of the infamous appliance.

The hardwood floor actually "healed itself" (Swedish finish maple floors), and one needs to look really hard to see where the disaster zone was.

roshke · 11-07-2009, 06:14 PM

Timely thread for me and very interesting about the circuit board problem. I have an old Bosch that takes too long to go through cycles. Service told me last year that it's from build up and to periodically use Tang or one of the Jet Dry cleaning agents, which I had been doing without much improvement. Now I see that long cycles are also the prime symptom of board issues. I didn't really pursue since the machine is old, and I was only keeping it for a spare for when we recently bought a new one. Already called to service it and will definitely mention the circuit issues as a result of reading this thread!

For the new one, I looked into the alternatives, but I ended up getting another Bosch because 1) the new one is even quieter than the old 2) European dishwashers give a more flush installation appearance with inset cabinets 3) The flat Miele utensil racks would drive me crazy 4) Many of my friends have had Bosch with no problems.

The new Bosch is great so far - so quiet you really can't even hear it and performs beautifully. If I were looking strictly on the basis of reliablilty I'd strongly consider a Kitchenaid (but not as quiet).

ucsd_ucla_dad · 11-07-2009, 07:33 PM

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We have had exceptional luck with Whirlpool(they also make kenmore). We have chosen a middle-of-the-road model for features, but have been very pleased. When is possible we try to buy as American as we can. We try to keep Americans working.

In that case the Bosch would be a good choice since they have a dishwasher factory in North Carolina. Whirlpool makes many appliances in the USA but they also have some factories in Mexico so you'd need to check the box to see where the product was actually manufactured if you're concerned. In these times of global companies one can't rely on whether the company origins are domestic or foreign because the foreign company might build the product in the USA and the domestic company might built the product outside the USA. This goes for appliances, autos, and almost everything else. It takes some research to determine whether something's really made in the USA or not.

younghoss · 11-08-2009, 10:54 AM

A very good point ucla dad. For those who care about American jobs it can be a tough choice. Sometimes the only choice is Foreign owned but assembled here? Or American owned assembled elsewhere? No easy answer given just those 2 choices.

Personally, I try for as American as I can, and as owner of 3 Whirlpool dws(rental houses) I actually did confirm they were made in USA before my purchase.

Schmoomcgoo · 11-08-2009, 07:18 PM

For those who like the Bosch dishwasher, are you satisfied with its drying? I understand it does not dry with heat but rather with a "condensation dryer".

notre dame AL · 11-08-2009, 08:37 PM

Yes, I am satisfied--it took some getting used to, but I figure it adds to energy efficiency of the machine. I try to crack open the door at the end of the cycle which allows for air drying. Plus, I am more happy about how quiet machine is and the cleanliness of the dishes than the heated air drying option. No, I don't miss the heat dry option of some machines.

toneranger · 11-08-2009, 10:41 PM

Bosch here.
Very quiet...love that.
We had the smell problem for the first year...but it seems to have gone away.
Our appliance repair guy said to switch to a powder vs liquid dw detergent...we did and it does a better job.
Our repair guy also said Bosch is one of the few dishwashers that actually has push buttons vs an electronic touch panel. Those touch panels break A LOT. Keep him in business my guy says (he came out to replace one on my Jennair gas slide in oven).
Anyway, I like my Bosch.

Helenback · 11-08-2009, 11:24 PM

My dishwasher repair guy was here yesterday, and I asked him what kind of dishwasher he has, and he has a Bosch. Unfortunately that's not in our current price range. Does anybody remember what the Flintstones use to wash their dishes, because I may be looking for one of those.

I took my Whirlpool dishwasher apart this week in an effort to fix it myself. I did not fix it, but I was still impressed that I could disassemble a dishwasher, though I don't know what purpose that skill will serve if I can't actually fix it.

It's going to cost $360 to get it functional again. The guy actually said, "This is a good model. It's got a good pump on it, but if it goes out it's an expensive repair." Oh. Then does it make any sense to sink that money into it?

This is just a great horror to me! If everybody has to replace all their appliances every five years, then we're going to be living on top of mountains of discarded appliances.

cbreeze · 11-08-2009, 11:35 PM

The only piece of appliance that works to perfection in my house is the Miele dishwasher. I also have a Fisher Paykel drawer type for small loads and the Miele works so much better.

Kajon · 11-09-2009, 07:43 AM

We have a Bosch which I love! Though I am becoming quite intrigued with all the new Electrolux appliances.

toneranger · 11-09-2009, 12:01 PM

Wow...$360 to fix...i don't think so. Seems like a poor investment.
A low end Bosch is not that expensive. Sears has them in the mid 500s.
That's the kind we got. Quiet...pretty good cleaning. No repair issues after two years.

NJres · 11-11-2009, 01:53 PM

The dishwasher lives! And I have unjustly slandered Frigidaire. My wife called the support number, really just to complain - because dishwasher was purchased by the seller just before we bought our house 1 1/2 years ago. Much to our surprise they looked us up and told us they could do "parts and labor" on a repair, so the repairman came out today and replaced the fan as well as the entire control panel. I still don't know if the original buyer (the guy we bought our house from) purchased an extended warranty or if Frigidaire just decided to offer more than 1 year protection. For the moment, we are happy.

BunsenBurner · 11-11-2009, 02:00 PM

Fantastic news! Maybe the guys at Frigidaire read CC