College Confidential
» CC HOME » FORUM HOME

  College Confidential > College Admissions and Search > Parents Forum
New User

Welcome to College Confidential!
The leading college-bound community on the web
Join for FREE now, and start talking with other members, weighing in on community polls, and more.

Also, by registering and logging in you'll see fewer ads and pesky welcome messages (like this one)!
Discussion Menu
»Discussion Home
»Help & Rules
»Latest Posts
»NEW! CampusVibe™
»Stats Profiles
Top Forums
»College Chances
»College Search
»College Admissions
»Financial Aid
»SAT/ACT
»Parents
»Colleges
»Ivy League
Main CC Site
»College Confidential
»College Search
»College Admissions
»Paying for College
Sponsors
SuperMatch - The Future of College Search!
CampusVibe - Almost As Good As A Campus Visit!
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-25-2012, 06:31 AM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 451
EA Advice from Princeton

From the Princeton Admin Rep on The Choice in NY Times:


However, if you are applying early to Princeton because you believe it is the right strategy for increasing your chances of admission, we would advise against it. Our admission process is not weighted toward early applicants. The early admission programs at most colleges, whether binding or not, are intended for students who think it is the right match for them.

This past year we admitted 726 students early from a pool of 3,443 early applicants. The early pool is very competitive because it is a self-selected group of excellent students. So it is not “easier” to be admitted early in our process, even though the statistics seem otherwise. If you are considering applying early to any school, please do your homework about the possible outcomes. In the early process at Princeton, you either will be admitted, deferred into the regular decision round — where you will be reviewed again with the entire applicant pool — or refused.


For all those on CC who post that they want to apply early because the stats imply better odds of getting admitted to an Ivy if you apply SCEA.
kiddie is offline   Reply   
Old 09-26-2012, 01:12 PM   #2
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 38
Don't forget that the EA's are stacked with athletes who have already been told by Admissions (via a Likely Letter) that they will be accepted. This significantly increases the acceptance percentages of EA"s.
alloutforivy is offline   Reply   
Old 09-26-2012, 01:31 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,017
Although you actually have to have applied to get a Likely Letter... so the Likely Letter itself does not seem to be what changes the odds (although I agree that a recruited athlete may be told by the coach to apply EA, and the EA admits may include a higher percentage of recruited athletes than the RD pool).
intparent is offline   Reply   
Old 09-26-2012, 01:36 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 6,096
The likely letter strategy for recruited athletes was used by H and probably P during the period when they had abolished ED. Now that it is back again, I would venture to guess that they are taking most of their recruited athletes early.
Consolation is online now   Reply   
Old 09-26-2012, 02:18 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Xiggilandia where the ale trumps Westvleteren
Posts: 14,967
Perhaps!

Quote:
So it is not “easier” to be admitted early in our process, even though the statistics seem otherwise.
Well, until the schools decide to be more transparent than the type of hollow statements quoted above, applicants are most definitely better served to ANALYZE the statistics. Since the schools possess all the information, it should be a cinch to disclose the information that MIGHT contradict the previous reports of Avery et al that suggested the early pool is actually weaker than the RD pool.

In the meantime, here are the numbers to consider for Princeton:

Early Admission: about a 21 percent admit rate
Regular Admission: less than SIX percent.

And if you consider the entire Ivy League, the same numbers are about 22 percent versus EIGHT percent.

The story is slightly different at MIT, where the early bonus is much smaller with 11 versus 8 percent. At Stanford, it is 13 versus 5 percent.

The bottom line? Early admissions continue to deliver to the well-informed. And, fwiw, what is there to lose with a REA application? A chance at better odds with an ED application that has lost most of its binding bite?

Last edited by xiggi; 09-26-2012 at 02:23 PM.
xiggi is offline   Reply   
Old 09-26-2012, 06:21 PM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 451
Agree with xiggi about no lose to apply REA - however there is something to lose by applying SCEA (opportunities at other colleges that could include scholarships etc that only go to EA applicants)
kiddie is offline   Reply   
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:12 PM.




Copyright 2001-2011, Hobsons, Inc., All Rights Reserved