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Old 10-14-2012, 02:40 PM   #121
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Who the heck spends $2M for a chance to go to Harvard??? Use that money for some REAL investment, and spend 25% of that to send your kids ELSEWHERE!!!
M2CK -I personally know two kids last year, one to Penn, the other to Yale. That's telling since I don't know many people personally.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:06 PM   #122
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I know an admissions officer at a small college (third tier) and he has openly stated to me they are concerned about Asian applicants because often they come to campus, hide in a cubicle in the library for four years, dont get involved in any activities or "give back to campus community" and then graduate in math/science/engineering and never look back or give back to the schools.
I noticed some schools have buildings or colleges sound like "Wa" or "Chan" or "Hsi" or something. I thought that's Asian, but I could be wrong.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:14 PM   #123
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I have noted that some people (and some cultures) are obsessed with the name on the parchment, as if it delineates family wealth, status and success. How utterly superficial and pathetic it is.

I know an admissions officer at a small college (third tier) and he has openly stated to me they are concerned about Asian applicants because often they come to campus, hide in a cubicle in the library for four years, dont get involved in any activities or "give back to campus community" and then graduate in math/science/engineering and never look back or give back to the schools ...

... people who come to do all the taking and none of the giving need not apply.
A century ago, the same kind of odious statements were commonly made about another ethnic group. It is not even worthy of a rebuttal.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:29 PM   #124
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"Unless there is another jewler of the same name, it apparently that Gerald Chow was Harvard educated himself!"

I'm not so sure about that; from the link: "Dr. King Sing Chow, Gerald, DDS, MBA, MPA (HARVARD)..." Presumably, only the MPA is from Harvard. I didn't recognize the degrees, so I looked it up: "The one-year Harvard Kennedy School Mid-Career Master in Public Administration (MC/MPA) is an intensive eight credit program, preceded by a one-month summer program exclusively for mid-career professionals."

The Chows are nuts. By filing this lawsuit, they are telling the world that their two sons, for whose benefit they paid the $2M+, cheated in HS and may have gotten into college with the help of donations.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:37 PM   #125
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More dollars than cents? Oops, more dollars than sense.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:44 PM   #126
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This is another post from sovereigndebt who should practise what he preaches.

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the word troll is used often on CC and it means generally someone who is not really involved in the subject matter, or who posts information (even if true) that is intended to harm a school or persons on the boards. ........................
Nor did I dispute the facts, nor attempt to squelch the truth. I questioned the motive and standing of the poster.

End of story.
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Old 10-14-2012, 04:24 PM   #127
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Also, Sovereigndebt seems to be laboring under the delusion that colleges are automatically entitled to alum donations by virtue of their having attended/graduated from said institutions.

I completely reject that as it presumes higher-ed institutions don't need to EARN & MAINTAIN THE REQUIRED RESPECT of the alums and their families.

If those institutions left graduating alums dissatisfied with their educational/collegiate experiences or otherwise didn't do enough to earn/maintain the respect & esteem, they don't deserve those donations.
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Old 10-14-2012, 04:51 PM   #128
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I wondered about that (Chow's degree). A person I know likes to talk about his time at the Harvard Business School. Turns out he attended an executive education program costing $68,000 and lasting 7 weeks total. These kinds of programs are money-makers for the school but should not be confused with their graduate degree programs.
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Old 10-14-2012, 05:49 PM   #129
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Sue22, Wow! That's expensive. I knew about these "executive" courses but had no idea they charged so much for them.
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Old 10-14-2012, 05:57 PM   #130
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Is one of those executive programs (the 6 week things) the one that Tyra Banks took?

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Old 10-14-2012, 06:12 PM   #131
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Yep, but Harvard offers free gelato all day long to the participants. Perhaps that is what attracted Tyra banks.

Most schools offer plenty of very expensive executive programs of various lengths. The beauty is that no financial aid is needed; just rich sponsors.
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:24 PM   #132
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Free gelato for $9,700/wk tuition. Sounds like a deal to me.
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:36 PM   #133
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Also, Sovereigndebt seems to be laboring under the delusion that colleges are automatically entitled to alum donations by virtue of their having attended/graduated from said institutions.

I completely reject that as it presumes higher-ed institutions don't need to EARN & MAINTAIN THE REQUIRED RESPECT of the alums and their families.
Amen to that.
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:57 PM   #134
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Hmmmm... Its that time of year again. Getting many calls/letters from the schools we attended asking for donations. Just completed 4 contributions to my undergrad/grad and my DH's undergrad/grad. His employer will match the dontations dollar for dollar. I figure we have benefitted from our education, and the respect college/ alum) seems to go both ways. We give back. It sees like the right thing to do, IMO.

We haven't given to the kids schools. I am considering it, but I figure its their place to donate as alums. That said, one was VERY generous with scholarship $, so it would be the right thing to do to give back.
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:37 PM   #135
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"I know an admissions officer at a small college (third tier) and he has openly stated to me they are concerned about Asian applicants because often they come to campus, hide in a cubicle in the library for four years, dont get involved in any activities or "give back to campus community" and then graduate in math/science/engineering and never look back or give back to the schools."

Hmmm, I wonder where this third-tier, all-white college is located?

If they want donors, they should target full pay and kids from private schools where the kids and parents have been trained to contribute from K - 12 when the peer pressure to contribute is much higher. Forget GPAs and SATs!

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