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Parents of the HS Class of 2018 - 3.0 to 3.4 GPA

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  • mstompermstomper Registered User Posts: 750 Member
    @Momtoatrio, don't feel like you have to answer this: are S18's grades due to not doing writing assignments? The reason I ask is that we thought our S16 was being lazy (and he didn't deny it). An unsuccessful year in college showed that he froze when confronted with writing assignments. He got a 720 on the CR section of the SAT and a 4 on the AP English exam after getting a D in the class. I know your son is a different kid, and hope his issues are completely different from your son's. Your S18 could probably get good merit aid from the Colleges That Change Lives schools. If his weighted GPA is 3.5 he'd get full tuition at Alabama, and even if it isn't he'd get full tuition at University Mississippi (which S16 actually liked when he visited and would have attended if grandparents hadn't paid for him to pass a total of 3 classes at his first choice school).
  • MomtoatrioMomtoatrio Registered User Posts: 4 New Member
    @mstomper I would say that his grades are mostly due to not doing/turning in homework that tends to be things like worksheets. He has very little tolerance for doing things once he has perceived that he has learned the material. No amount of lecturing on my part about "there are things in life that we have to do whether we like it or not" can convince him that these things are necessary. I've suggested Mississippi to him but he seems stuck on the fact that it's very south (and we are not). His school doesn't weight grades, so I'm not sure what that would do to his GPA. My other two seemed easy compared to this one!
  • BooajoBooajo Registered User Posts: 652 Member
    @Momtoatrio how far does he want/need to go? Because Wisconsin schools would be affordable I think. Not sure how Truman State would handle GPA, but they are usually a good option too (and not so far south as Mississippi).
  • mstompermstomper Registered User Posts: 750 Member
    Truman State is a good suggestion. Long ago I had a friend who studied German there. Ohio University may be as well; if our youngest decides to go more than 2-3 hours away it wouldn't be a bad place for him to check out. @Momtoatrio, your youngest sounds like our younger son (except with a higher SAT). Ours will sometimes sit down and do all those assignments and turn them in late, but not always. This past year our school did away with finals, but that meant more less meaningful assignments and less opportunity to pull grades up by acing the final. Fourth quarter wasn't pretty, but overall his GPA pretty much stayed the same.
  • MACmiracleMACmiracle Registered User Posts: 395 Member
    I have a younger D who actually completes assignments but then doesn't hand them in. :-t
  • KardinalschnittKardinalschnitt Registered User Posts: 83 Junior Member
    Hi there!

    Our group is growing. Welcome everyone!

    We are about to go home for the summer, but I thought I'd stop by first.

    Dd started on some apps. She is currently back in the "definitely going to college" mood. Iowa State is tops, by far, with Northern Michigan U as second choice. Ha ha! Not urban, not warm by a long shot. Whatever! She's in love with both. She actually qualifies for automatic admit at ISU, so no stress, which is very nice.

    Have a lovely summer all! See you in September!
  • MomtoatrioMomtoatrio Registered User Posts: 4 New Member
    @Booajo , Wisconsin has a few schools that will be his safeties. Sadly I don't think he'll get in at Madison or that would probably be his #1 pick. For us they're cheap because of reciprocity. I haven't heard of Truman so I'll definitely take a look there!
  • MomtoatrioMomtoatrio Registered User Posts: 4 New Member
    @mstomper we might have the same child! Yes, sometimes he will do them and turn them in late. Other times he tells me he is definitely not worth his time and he refuses. He always knows what % of the grade is made up of homework and plans accordingly
  • labegglabegg Registered User Posts: 1,097 Senior Member
    DD submitted applications to University of Mississippi (Ole Miss) and Stephen F Austin State University. She is an assured admit to SFA and if I read the info correctly she should be assured admission to Ole Miss too. Happy to have 2 done! She is ready to hit the submit on U of South Carolina too, not sure what she is waiting for, lol.

    DD knocked a few more essays out over the past few days. Seems like supplemental essay topic dujour is about diversity.
  • snooznsnoozn Registered User Posts: 1,007 Senior Member
    edited July 17
    Hello to the new folks (and the old!)

    [PSA: Maybe it's just me who gets confused, but just wanted to point out to any who are new that the number in D17, etc. is HS grad year, not age. Who me? Yeah I did it wrong until someone corrected me! Just in case some don't know yet and might call child services if I tell them my D11 is getting married on Saturday! (True!)]

    Reporting in a little prematurely as we are on the tail end of our one and only college visit tour. S18 heads for Germany for HS senior year in less than three weeks! Thank goodness the trip has been a smashing success. We visited George Mason, George Washington, UMD-CP, Towson, and tomorrow is UMBC. He went in completely entranced by UMD-College Park, but the poor turtles have been smited by the Patriot. He loved every single thing about George Mason. First in the nation undergrad cybersecurity, beautiful campus with green space and trees, but commuting distance to DC internships. The tour guide and admissions rep (who was a grad student and recent GMU grad) were exactly the kind of students he wants to hang around, work, and have fun with.

    Towson was number two. A pretty similar experience. Basically, everything was very nice, just not quite as good as Mason. He liked a lot about GWU, but I think it's coming off the list. No real dining plan unless you bus to the Mount Vernon campus every day. He did not like the divided campus thing. Otherwise, did like the Foggy Bottom campus and being right in the city. Did not like that cybersecurity majors don't start any actual cybersecurity classes until junior year. At Mason they start freshman year.

    Poor UMD-CP, I'm sure they're not crying too hard over the loss of my son no longer being in love with them. He did not care for the campus. He thought it was too sports-ish. We'll see how UMBC measures up tomorrow.

    From a parent perspective: He tossed the two more selective schools that probably wouldn't have let him in, much less offer a little money. He loves the two less competitive, less expensive schools where he can get a nice honors scholarship and probably more opportunity to do research. Maybe the third time really is the charm and the college process will be a breeze!

    @rwmannesq, LOVE your Wile E. Coyote avatar! My D17 is HF autistic and has had quite a journey. She will be headed to RIT this fall where they have a spectrum support program. If you're interested you might want to skim through the 2017 3.0-3.4 thread. But in some ways your S is more like my D11 who has NVLD (lots of overlap with the Aspergers end of ASD). She had a 3.7 with no honors/APs and didn't do too well on the ACT, but her SAT was pretty good (I don't remember the exact numbers). My ASD D17 wrote her essay about her struggles, which were very significant. She was not always HF. I would say that your S should probably address his struggles somewhere in the app. If not in the essay, then the "additional information" section. Also, her counselor rec was co-written by her case manager who knows her very well. I think this helped the adcoms understand how hard she had worked.

    D17 took the SAT once and ACT once and did better on ACT. She said "No more!" I agree, if the kid doesn't need a better score to get a desperately needed scholarship or something, let it lie. Extended time is wonderful, but also brutal. In fact, my "normie" S18 will not retake the SAT again even though his score went DOWN on the 2nd testing and I think he could do better if he tried. I don't know if you've thought about test optional schools, but that may be of interest.

    Are you looking at any schools with spectrum support? It does give H and I a sense of security that D will have a special pre-orientation and will meet regularly with a mentor, along with some social help that includes organized activities. I suppose I'll be reporting on such things in real-time soon -- yikes!

  • rwmannesqrwmannesq Registered User Posts: 47 Junior Member
    @snoozn: Hello and thank you for reaching out to me/us.

    Yes, my son is very much like your D11 (thanks for tipping me off re that number, I figured it out a little late in the game.) He insists on taking the SAT again because he wants a shot at a couple more schools, so I found a local tutor to focus on SAT test taking strategy as opposed to the material. We'll see if that gives him a significant breakthrough.

    He didn't talk until 5th grade but has always earned high grades and mastered the information, and teachers consistently rave about what a pleasure he is and the effort he puts in. These days his challenges manifest more in social context than anything else, not picking up on social cues, being overly literal, as well as being challenged by standardized testing, etc. He's gone without any school provided resources all along because we pulled him out of the inept public schools (meaning our local district...I actually was completely public school up to Law School) back in first grade and he's been at private Catholic Schools ever since. He did well in the small no-bully community environment. We provided self procured speech therapy and one-on-one tutoring through 8th grade with great results.

    So it won't come as a shock to you that we were thinking he should talk about it in his essay or elsewhere. The others in CC seem to strongly disagree. But my gut says to go with it and it's reassuring to hear you think likewise.

    He tests too well to get extra time or qualify for any resources, at least per the IEP's we did through 8th grade. It would be nice to know more about Spectrum Support, I'll review some of your earlier threads. He keeps shining w/ a little bit of opportunity but I can't help but worry about all the upcoming unknowns (as I know you completely understand.

    I'll keep an eye out for you in future posts. It's an absolute pleasure to make your acquaintance. Best to you and your family! :-h
  • htimy2015htimy2015 Registered User Posts: 3 New Member
    edited July 18
    Hello all, new mom here. Is the 3.0-3.4 GPA for this list weighted or unweighted GPA ? My son has a weighted 3.87, but unweighted 3.33. His SAT is 1570 (800 Math, 770 Verbal). National AP Scholar since he took 8 or 9 APs so far, and got all 5 and 4. Good stats for test scores, good EC, but GPA is not so good. He got As and Bs, with 2 C+ (in English Honors in 9th grade, and in AP Lang in 11th grade). Now I'm not sure what schools he should apply to ? We're from Virginia. He's undecided on the major. I would appreciate any suggestion on the college list that he should apply to.
  • pantha33mpantha33m Registered User Posts: 120 Junior Member
    @htimy2015 You are in the right place - unweighted GPA. My S18 is in a very similar boat - 3.44 GPA and 35 ACT. It's a tricky thing to gameplan because most of the standard advice is for kids whose GPAs and test scores are more in accord.

    Some of the schools we're thinking about: Rice, Vandy, UNC (out of state), UVA (out of state), Wake Forest, Richmond, Lafayette, Franklni & Marshall, Pitt (in state).

  • GrainraiserGrainraiser Registered User Posts: 368 Member
    "DD submitted applications to University of Mississippi (Ole Miss) and Stephen F Austin State University. She is an assured admit to SFA and if I read the info correctly she should be assured admission to Ole Miss too. Happy to have 2 done! She is ready to hit the submit on U of South Carolina too, not sure what she is waiting for, lol."


    I find this post very interesting because my son had Ole Miss and SFA at the top of his list two years ago. Never thought I would see another kid with these two schools on the list. In the end he went with Texas State because it was the best fit for him.
  • labegglabegg Registered User Posts: 1,097 Senior Member
    @grainraiser. Lol, when you live in TX and you don't have the top 7% stats for UT or TAMU...! TX State was on her list until this past weekend. DD decided to cut TX State loose when she saw the $75 app fee because she is certain she would rather go to SFA. She will throw her hat in for TAMU but I doubt she will be accepted and she does not want to do Blinn, so SFA it will be if she decides to stay in-state.
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