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Replies to: Something very scary and very wrong is happening

  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 57,912 Senior Member
    edited March 4
    marvin100 wrote:
    I oppose respectable institutions of education lending him credibility by inviting him to their campuses.

    Murray was invited by a student group affiliated with the American Enterprise Institute, according to https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/03/03/middlebury-students-shout-down-lecture-charles-murray and https://middleburycampus.com/article/student-protests-prevent-charles-murray-from-delivering-lecture/ . Looks like this group: https://middlebury.collegiatelink.net/organization/AEI . However, it looks like a college official was present to deliver some opening remarks, according to the account from The Middlebury Campus. At the bottom of the article in the latter web site, there are links to numerous open letters in response.
  • HarvestMoon1HarvestMoon1 Registered User Posts: 5,290 Senior Member
    They need to sort out who was actually responsible for injuring the professor. Washington Post is reporting that again "outside agitators" were present in the crowd. That never seems to end well.
    College president Laurie L. Patton said she was “deeply disappointed” by the events she witnessed and said members of the college community had “failed to live up to our core values.” She said she believed many of the protesters were “outside agitators” but there were indications Middlebury students also were involved.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/higher-education/college-students-protest-speaker-branded-white-nationalist/2017/03/02/9352bc1e-ffa7-11e6-9b78-824ccab94435_story.html?utm_term=.ffb5b70e5453

    Charles Murray spoke at Princeton last December with no issues, although half of the audience did get up and walk out.
  • marvin100marvin100 Registered User Posts: 8,940 Senior Member
    I definitely stand with all the protesters who did not pull a faculty member's hair. Whoever did that should be punished and given whatever sentence hair-pullers usually get (I don't have access to the precedents).
  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 57,912 Senior Member
    marvin100 wrote:
    Whoever did that should be punished and given whatever sentence hair-pullers usually get (I don't have access to the precedents).

    Would the following be the applicable laws?
    http://legislature.vermont.gov/statutes/section/13/019/01023
    http://legislature.vermont.gov/statutes/section/13/019/01026
  • BestfriendsgirlBestfriendsgirl Registered User Posts: 738 Member
    @marvin100 - there was a hair-pulling incident on the second or third season of Real Housewives of New Jersey . IIRC, the perpetrator got probation and community service.
  • marvin100marvin100 Registered User Posts: 8,940 Senior Member
    Sounds about right, @Bestfriendsgirl .
  • compmomcompmom Registered User Posts: 7,128 Senior Member
    edited March 4
    This violence sounds like it was caused by emotion rather than political agitators. In other words, a "crime of passion" more than premeditation.

    Of course assault needs to be punished, probably in court.

    However, the university knew ahead of time how strong the emotional reactions were to this guest and so I think they are partially responsible.
  • Snowball CitySnowball City Registered User Posts: 499 Member
    Here is the Boston Globe article https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/03/03/protesters-aggressively-confront-controversial-scholar-middlebury-college/vJcDcIouqyZ9cbu5LLLahL/story.html
    an excerpt: "A controversial figure, Murray is best known as the author of “The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life” and “Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010.” The Southern Poverty Law Center describes Murray as a “white nationalist” who believes in the intellectual and moral superiority of white men and advocates for the elimination of welfare and affirmative action."

    I object to the violence.

    This speaker's only purpose in my mind would be to educate the students about the abhorrent thought processes of those like him.
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