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Take Aways From This Year's Admissions


Replies to: Take Aways From This Year's Admissions

  • ChembiodadChembiodad Registered User Posts: 649 Member
    @BoiDel, I can't imagine that the Common App, an association of the 600+ member schools, would ever restrict the number of applications that could be submitted as this current application submission hysteria is working well for the schools - the plummeting acceptance rate looks great from their perspective.
  • EyeVeeeEyeVeee Registered User Posts: 290 Junior Member
    On a positive note, one thing that I've noticed this year is that the nice kids we know seem to have placed well; those who "played the game" didn't. By "play the game", I'm referring to kids who have interests a mile wide and an inch deep.

    To pile on the ED complaints, the first person in our high school to know where they were going was accepted ED to Wake Forest in August. Important to note: not an athlete. Good student, but no special gifts. I believe applications open in July. Being accepted somewhere so early is silly, and dramatically changes Senior year (in a bad way). The other thing it did: scared the hell out of everyone else in the class that they were somehow behind in their search. Schools need to start taking responsibility for the environment they are generating away from campus.

    Regarding waitlists, I think it's a clear indication that schools have less of a handle on broader trends. ED is a great way to lower acceptance rates early in the process, and waitlists help identify likely acceptances after the fact. If a school needs to add to the class from the waitlist, they look at the kids who have verbally committed to coming "if" they get off the list, protecting their yield. There were stories of waitlist offers within days of decisions...which makes no sense.

    I also wonder if all of the statistics are as clean as they should be. More and more moving parts makes detecting accuracy and completeness more difficult.

    For all of the talk of first generation and URM access, money still carries the day. An upper class, private school kid with high test scores and an ED1 promise of $280k-$300k is tough for any school to pass on (except for maybe schools with large per student endowment...but even those probably struggle).
  • carachel2carachel2 Registered User Posts: 2,312 Senior Member
    edited May 7
    @intparent --there were still a few who backed out ED decisions :-O

    I guess this happens every year? Wow.
  • gmfreedomgmfreedom Registered User Posts: 70 Junior Member
    1) Too many top institutions reject qualified or over qualified students to control their "yield" simply for the purpose ranking.

    2) With over 1 million foreign students currently in US.......universities are often would admit a foreigner than a domestic student with the same stats to control the 'yield'. Also colleges know there is plenty of cheating coming from foreign students, but they totally ignore it.

    3) In US 57% of college students are WOMEN and 43% of college students are MEN. This gap is so HUGE....that the only way to explain it would be ....... discrimination (even after adjusting for some social factors why there are fewer men in colleges than women)
  • intparentintparent Registered User Posts: 27,350 Senior Member
    @carachel2, there are always some. But last year they were coming out of the woodwork -- parents and kids who somehow thought binding didn't mean binding for them...
  • NEPatsGirlNEPatsGirl Registered User Posts: 1,782 Senior Member
    I second that ED acceptances seem to be increasing, leaving fewer spots for those who have to wait out finaid packages.
  • EyeVeeeEyeVeee Registered User Posts: 290 Junior Member
    @friday28 - why not kids apply after the PSAT sophomore year? Think of all of the stress you could eliminate Junior Year.

    Any kid who applied to Wake regular decision (ie all of those who can't afford to commit to the $300k) is stacked with AP exams going on right now. Allowing ED so early tilts the playing field too far....and I would suggest hurts those accepted (and their future classmates) by not having them work hard their senior year. I'm all for reducing stress, but a few schools playing games isn't the answer.
  • AidaAida Registered User Posts: 202 Junior Member
    With the effect of ED I and II on regular admissions acceptance rates, holistic admissions practices which often include "demonstrated interest", and the stiff competition in certain impacted majors, my personal take-away is that the traditional three-tiered "safety, target, reach" paradigm is not very useful anymore. There are safeties, and then there is everything else.
  • bluebayoubluebayou Registered User Posts: 23,956 Senior Member
    Allowing ED so early tilts the playing field too far...

    WF has been offering that early ED date for quite awhile and other colleges have not jumped on that bandwagon; its mostly used by legacies (I think).

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