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Schools that admitted your B+/A- students?

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  • momtogirls2momtogirls2 Registered User Posts: 137 Junior Member
    Eastern CT State University is another school that MA residents pay a reduced tuition.
  • mathmommathmom Registered User Posts: 29,327 Senior Member
    Any reason WPI isn't on your list of schools to look at? (Probably not a candidate for merit.)

    I also thought if he's willing to go far afield Colorado School of Mines might be a possibility.
  • MomtoAndrew2018MomtoAndrew2018 Registered User Posts: 159 Junior Member
    edited July 13
    @thumper1 I know. :) I don't think it is fair for him to think negatively about U Maine due to a few bad apples he knew from HS, but you know how kids are like sometimes. If he is not crazy about the school, I can't make him. I have to say though - the COA of 26k per year??? Wow - what a bargain. My wallet would be very happy if he is willing to go there.

    How is U Maine's reputation for STEM majors?
  • thumper1thumper1 Registered User Posts: 62,573 Senior Member
    Sample of one. One of our close relatives spent two years at rose Hulman and transferred to U Maine where he finished an engineering degree. He was pleased...and has done well.
  • MomtoAndrew2018MomtoAndrew2018 Registered User Posts: 159 Junior Member
    edited July 13
    @mathmom WPI is a reach for S based on what I see in Naviance. He is way below average. WPI is also too small of a school for S's taste. Plus he has other 'reach' schools he is more interested in (knowing fully he might not get into any of them).
  • MomtoAndrew2018MomtoAndrew2018 Registered User Posts: 159 Junior Member
    @NEPatsGirl Thank you!

    >>> He may well get into the honors program at UMass. Don't discount the ACT, its a different test but he could score a tier higher than the 1300 SAT, you never know. Do the other state schools have good CS programs? Could he start at one for two years and transfer in to UMA?

    For some reason I missed your post yesterday. You got my hope up! Let's see how well S does on ACT practice tests. The next ACT test is in September. so we will see.

    I really don't know if any other state schools are worth looking at for CS. Perhaps UMass Lowell - but hopefully we don't have to resort to going somewhere as a stepping stone for UMA.
  • NEPatsGirlNEPatsGirl Registered User Posts: 2,052 Senior Member
    UMassAmherst allows early applications which can really lessen the stress of applications. My D was accepted into the BioTap early but chose another school.
  • MomtoAndrew2018MomtoAndrew2018 Registered User Posts: 159 Junior Member
    Yes, we will do EA for UMass Amherst. That is what I heard too.
  • TomSrOfBostonTomSrOfBoston Registered User Posts: 10,832 Senior Member
    The University of Maine created the regional (and Canadian) tuition rate due to the fact that enrolment at all campuses had been falling for several years. It was away to attract OOS students.
  • mamaedefamiliamamaedefamilia Registered User Posts: 2,534 Senior Member
    edited July 14
    @MomtoAndrew2018

    My D took an initial dislike to the ACT because of its pacing. However, after not getting the score she hoped for on the SAT, she did a timed practice test at home and got very encouraging results. With some prep, she did even better, putting her into the merit scholarship category for the schools where she applied. I recommend that your son do the same and if there's potential, use the rest of the summer to prep for the September test.

    U MA Amherst Honors program has become increasingly competitive. Colorado School of Mines is also increasingly difficult to obtain merit scholarships (and he would have to apply early for consideration - check deadlines!) At Case Western, his chances would be improved by applying non-restrictive EA. In the RD round, I know of excellent students that were shut out but students with lower stats who applied EA got in.

    Also as mentioned earlier, there are lots of public universities in the West where he might qualify for in-state rates with his stats. If he's interested in going farther afield, I can follow up with examples. However, it looks like there are plenty of good options for him that wouldn't involve getting on a plane. U VT would be a great place to go to college.

    Edited to add: I posted this link on one of your other threads. Lots of good ideas there. Scroll back several pages for compiled stats of students from the class of 2017, including merit outcomes.

    http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1871275-parents-of-the-hs-class-of-2017-3-0-to-3-4-gpa.html#latest
  • MomtoAndrew2018MomtoAndrew2018 Registered User Posts: 159 Junior Member
    @mamaedefamilia

    Great tips! Thank you so much. I will share your post with S and urge him to do the same.

    I've always wondered about the pros and cons of EA. From what I understand, there is really not a big incentive for the schools to admit students during EA round because it is non-binding. So, what makes EA more appealing to schools than RD?

  • MomtoAndrew2018MomtoAndrew2018 Registered User Posts: 159 Junior Member
    @mamaedefamilia Thank you! I did see that. I've already scanned through the whole thread! That took me nearly a day!

    It is scary how much time I've already spent on CC and I am not even close to being done!

  • mamaedefamiliamamaedefamilia Registered User Posts: 2,534 Senior Member
    @MomtoAndrew2018 It depends on the school. Case Western, for example, is very sensitive to "demonstrated interest," because it is aware that high stats kids treat it as a safety school, should they not get into a higher ranked choice. The ultimate demonstrated interest, of course, is to apply ED but that locks you in and IMO, it would not be in a university's interest to award merit scholarships to ED students, because they don't have to be lured with merit. In theory, they're a sure thing.

    Case's application involves no supplementary essay and I believe there's no application fee either. So (again, just my opinion), putting in an early application might suggest seriousness about the school. Applying right before the RD deadline suggests that it might be an afterthought.

    Anecdote - my daughter applied EA and got a substantial merit scholarship. Two other students I know who are of similar caliber who applied RD were waitlisted. Yes, I know that anecdotes are not data. :)

    As to your broader question, there are some places where EA is more competitive than RD (Notre Dame, for example).

    What's in it for the school to have an EA round? It's a chance to lock in part of their class early on. I think there's a psychological benefit for students to get an early acceptance - it gives them more time to imagine the school as a place they might attend. There is more time to plan an on-campus visit that might seal the deal.

    As for Case, I think it might be a bit of a reach for your son, but worth a try. The application is easy through the common app. It is a wonderful school, IMO. It ended up being my daughter's second choice. The Maker space is a fantastic resources and there is an energetic feel about the student body. While known mostly for tech, liberal arts are strong also. There are no barriers to entry for specific majors. It's in a relatively safe area of Cleveland with a large park and lots of free museums nearby.
  • MomtoAndrew2018MomtoAndrew2018 Registered User Posts: 159 Junior Member
    @mamaedefamilia You sold me on Case! I've always known Case as a well known, prestigious school but this seems like reaching stars for S. I will re-evaluate our list. Does not hurt to try.

    You made some really good points on EA. Those do make a lot of sense!

    Congratulations to your D! That is a huge accomplishment! What year class is she and what is her major?

  • MAandMEmomMAandMEmom Registered User Posts: 801 Member
    Regarding UMaine's program, I think they wanted to compete more with the flagships of surrounding states, drawing more students to Maine as their declining high school population is more pronounced than other states. Massachusetts students are particularly taking advantage of it is my understanding. At first they didn't include students from Rhode Island but I guess they are now. There was an interesting article here: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/05/11/university-maine-sees-slower-growth-second-year-flagship-match-program . Hope its not behind a wall though -- I have access to this site at work.
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