Anyone think admissions defers more strange this year?

[CBK]

Not my daughter this time but her friend, another all AP kid 94/95 unweighted girl, SAT 2200 was told by Quinnipiac she was a sure in, no problems even offered (verbally) merit $$

She got deferred.

What gives?

[CBK]

ps the mom feels the mistake she made was checking the need for financial aid, has an older senior @ UPenn, so no FA was not an option.

Would you think the FA was the problem?

[corranged]

Maybe they were slow reading applications (more applications than expected, not enough staff) and deferred students they didn't get to? Or maybe paperwork sent by the school arrived late?

[NewHope33]

The Physical Therapy and Physician Assistant programs are very competitive at Quinnipiac. Still ....

[suemag]

CBK when did she apply? My daughter applied to Quinnipiac Dec 3. right after her interview. The interviewer also said she was in and with merit $$$ VERBALLY

She has not heard back yet. Rolling admissions is a crapshoot if you don't apply EARLY.

[northeastmom]

How do you get deferred at a rolling admissions school? I thought there is only one pool since there isn't EA or ED.

[bethievt]

I think it's outrageous that a kid would get that kind of verbal commitment and then be deferred. Could there have been a mistake?

[suemag]

You can get deferred because not all students who are accepted actually go there. Many students like rollling admission because its an ego boost-early gratification if they get accepted and with no commitment to attend.

[2331clk]

If you looks at Quinnipiac's numbers, it doesn't make a lot of sense. Although she wasn't rejected.

58% acceptance, avg gpa 3.5, SAT range 1100-1240...assuming writing scores are similar that's about 1700-1830 give or take. 2200 is FAR above 75%. Interestingly, only 2% of Quin students score above 700 CR and only 3% above 700 math. We weren't given the breakdown but this person's 2200, even if writing score is 800, still leaves 700 for each of CR and M. 700+ on either CR or M should be a standout here and odds are she had both. Couple with APs and 94-95?

If I were this student or parent or GC, I'd follow up, get an explanation, so she doesn't get any more surprises like this. Was she overqualified and wouldn't go? FA? It almost sounds like, with some of these crazy results, some schools randomly pick a great applicant, defer or reject them, so the kid can take the bad news back to their hs, and that college is then viewed as more selective than anyone had previously thought.

[northeastmom]

suemag, Isn't that what "waitlisting" is for?

[carolyn]

Is it possible that your daughter's friend and her parents mis-read what Quinnipiac actually said? I know of very few colleges who would "guarantee" admissions and merit money until they actually see the application. Most admissions people are encouraging ("You should apply!") but promise little. Unfortunately, many students and parents hear "You should apply!" as "You're in!" In some cases, that can result in half-hearted applications ("Why work too hard -- I'm already in!"). Of course, we also don't have access to her entire application - we don't know what her recommendations said, whether there were some glitches in her transcript that she didn't mention to your daughter, or, even if her test scores were really what she said they were (kids and parents both have tendency to inflate things). So, my gut feel when hearing stories like this is to be a little skeptical -- the other side of the story-- what admissions actually saw --- is often different from what is told to friends and neighbors, especially when I hear of college admissions people "promising" things like admissions and merit before they've seen the application.

[bethievt]

It only happened to us once, but at one interview, my son was told, "Of course, we would offer you a substantial merit scholarship." I'm sure they would have if he had applied. We had been invited into the room at that point and we all heard it.

[rodney]

Carolyn: I would completely agree with you....if this was not Quinnipiac....Every single applicant in our HS has already been admitted this year and long ago.....Low ranking, middle ranking, high ranking....SAT/ACT's all over the map....(and no we are not a highly ranked HS)

IMO, and since I know ALOT of students who have already been accepted there, this is a situation of timing.....the admissions person who told this applicant saw the stats and automatically assumed (incorrectly) that there was room left in the class for a person of her calibur....I think that Quinnipiac may have jumped the gun this year on ALOT of early applicants and now they are being forced to defer EXCELLENT candidates until they get responses....

Any other opinions???

[suemag]

Rodney- I agree wholeheartedly. The admin. interviewer told my daughter that they had to waitlist a lot of very talented students due to rolling admissions. I wonder if Quinnipiac will review and change their admissions now that they are becoming a little more well-known and can be a little more selective.

[rodney]

suemag: that being said, I'm really totally unfamiliar with their yield numbers and how many accepted will actually attend...this school has only been on the radar here for a couple of years....very tough to determine waiting list status.