Nearly 100 students at San Diego State arrested in drug bust

[fa-la-la-lena]

lol, sucks for them. I applied/got accepted to SDSU this year... glad I'm not stupid enough to get involved with drugs

[padfoot]

I'm sorry to say this because I like being nice to everyone but SDSU is a terrible place to go to school (unless maybe you're doing business) and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

I mean I'm sure there's plenty of cool people that go there but the people I've met at parties through friends at that school...well...gag me.

There are also STD epidemics on campus often, etc. It's also located in El Cajon, an area of San Diego county famous for prostitution and Mexican drug trading. I don't know...

[Aztec09]

padfoot- that is the worst generalization i have heard about SDSU - please do more research before you bash a school that is one of the hardest CSU's to get into.

[1of42]

Originally Posted by andi

You might want to ask the people who go to marijuana anonymous meetings about that. Marijuana has ruined many lives- maybe not 'directly' but indirectly. You are totally clueless.

I'm confused... did I miss the part of the post where he said that marijuana had never had a bad effect on anyone's life? Could just be me, but I thought his post just said nobody had ever overdosed...

[churning]

Just think: if the drug bust was done before May 1st, the SDSU waitlist would surely be eliminated, with all the parents rerouting the kids to other "safer" schools. That school is in my area, and pretty difficult to get into. Well look at it this way: there is a little more room to get in now.

[jhouck11]

that kid has no clue what he's talkign about.
like no joke, the town i live in nearly invented it. people come from all over the US just to get some. it's weird. and i know a lot of people, not some. alot. that smoke more than twice a week and it doesn't ruin their lives. some get into ivies and some go to great schools that aren't ivys. like stanford and usc. so yeah it can ruin your life, if your dumb and let it take over your life, but for the most part, no. it doesn't ruin your life.

[Aztec09]

Weed may not directly kill, but cancer does. And Marijuana has cancerous causing toxins.

[Take3]

churning - It could also be a coincidence. Who knows what factors caused law enforcement to execute the arrest warrants when they did? LE is not known for showing all of its cards to us civilians. For example, it may have made sense to collect as much evidence as possible while the school year was still in progress, but then to make arrests before the year ended and students scattered all over the state and beyond.

Out of the frying pan, into the fire... if parents route their children to other universities, they could well send their students to universities with drug and violence problems that refuse to acknowledge or address these problems.

Viewed another way, a lot of SDSU's troublemakers aren't coming back to campus in fall.

[1of42]

Originally Posted by Aztec09

Weed may not directly kill, but cancer does. And Marijuana has cancerous causing toxins.

If you'd done your research properly (obviously you haven't) you'd know that the largest study to date of the link between marijuana and cancer (the UCLA study) found no statistical link. Other studies have found links, so obviously the conclusions are not final, but it is by no means definitely true that marijuana causes cancer.

[Take3]

From the Union-Tribune, May 6, 2008, SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Metro -- Sting snares 96 on SDSU campus on drug charges

"[Damon] Mosler [narcotics division chief for the District Attorney] said the university's cooperation is rare and should be used as an example for other campuses.

'Being proactive and taking on these problems at schools is not easy. Nobody likes that. We've often had issues with people not wanting to take on problems at schools,' Mosler said."

[Son of Opie]

Well, smoke is smoke. Breathing any kind of burning stuff into your lungs is not going to be good for them long-term, but there's more than one way to skin a cat, so to speak. I haven't seen anything on THC by itself being a carcinogen. And in any case, tobacco smoke is way worse, so why is one legal while the other isn't? No logical reason.

[Northstarmom]

"
SAN DIEGO, California (AP) -- San Diego State University has suspended six fraternities after a sweeping drug investigation that landed members of three fraternities in jail on suspicion of openly dealing drugs on campus....

Dale Taylor, national executive director of Theta Chi, said he was "obviously shocked and saddened" by the allegations. Theta Chi prohibited the San Diego chapter from group activities such as parties or sports activities and will investigate additional disciplinary measures, up to expulsion of members or the entire chapter.

The San Diego chapter, founded 61 years ago, was the first national fraternity on campus and has 65 members.

The chapter declined comment. It occupies two low-slung homes a block off Fraternity Row, with large red and white Greek symbols propped on the roof.

Theta Chi has 131 chapters in the U.S. and Canada and more than 161,000 initiates. It was founded in 1856.

Besides Theta Chi, the other suspended fraternities are Lambda Chi Alpha, Phi Kappa Psi, Phi Kappa Theta, Sigma Alpha Epsilon and Sigma Alpha Mu."
Six fraternities suspended after San Diego drug bust - CNN.com

[Hunt]

Before freaking out too much, one needs to look at the reports a bit more closely. How many of these 75 students are alleged to have been involved in selling drugs? Or did they also arrest anybody who bought drugs? If it's the latter, a lot of those cases will fade away. Also note that out of the 96 people arrested, 21 were not students. Who were they? And searches were done at nine "locations," including a fraternity. Where, exactly, were all these drugs and guns found? It's really not very clear. It sure does seem like there were some students dealing drugs, but the scope of the operation may not be much different than on many campuses.

[galoisien]

Weed may not directly kill, but cancer does. And Marijuana has cancerous causing toxins.

Carcinogens are often even nutrients, hormones or certain cell signals. Toxic at excess levels, but gee, just because weed/cannabis (marijuana by the way was a racist term promoted by the Treasury Department to exploit xenophobia; you should be ashamed for buying into their propaganda by using such an offensive term without immediately calling the legitimacy of that term into question) contains some product that enzymes may convert into some signal transduction factor through some elaborate pathway, doesn't mean those factors will definitively contribute to cancer (by virtue of the Knudson 1-2 hit hypothesis).

You realise that chemicals that stimulate the cellular growth of anything will naturally be a carcinogen.

If I become an astronaut, I have a higher chance of getting cancer.
If I indulge in anything that tastes good, I will have a higher chance of cancer.
If I never used the internet, I will decrease my exposure to cancer-causing monitor radiation.

I could probably do a lot of things to reduce my chance cancer, but then I would have no reason to live in the first place.

Walking may not directly kill, but getting hit by a car does. That is why you should never cross the road.

Did the study mention the category of carcinogens used? Were they Category 1, 2A, 2B, 3, 4?

I note that the lungs and gastrointestinal tract are covered with epithelial tissue, which means they routinely regenerate themselves to deal with carcinomas, foreign bodies and other toxins. The potency of carcinogens are important here, since a lethal poison in the stuff you're smoking will be virtually harmless if you know, it can't bypass the body's barriers effectively (e.g. chemically large toxins).

[BunsenBurner]

^^galoisien, before you can call yourself an expert in oncology, you have to finish high school, spend 4 years buried in thick books at the college of your choice, do hands-on research in graduate school for 5-6 years, and get post-doctoral training. That's the bare minimum.