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05-06-2008, 07:59 PM
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#16 | | Member
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| OP, why did you single out Harvard? Just curious. It seems that there are plenty of other "posh" colleges filled with well-connected kids. |
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05-06-2008, 08:37 PM
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#17 | | Junior Member
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Posts: 71
| Bunsen:
Your question is vaild. The drug problem is in every campus. I choose harvard not to downplay the school but to show that rules of law applied depends on victims pocketbook and connection. A poor person can be punished for a crime, yet a resourceful person can just walk away with the slap on the wrist for the same crime. I could have said same thing for Yale or Princeton. But I have no first hand knowledge.
Marite:
I am not putting H down. I should have said that rules of the game are differnt for differnt people. In this case, death did cause this investigation. But many times people with resources bend the rules. I know life is not fair. But I feel bad that so many minority people lanuguish in jail for petty crimes while many walk free.
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05-06-2008, 09:02 PM
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#18 | | Member
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Posts: 475
| So you readily admit that this drug raid was the direct result of multiple student deaths... while undermines the whole gung-ho-ness of the SD police going in. They didn't go in on a hunch or a random phone tip. They went in based on an investigation. Try and tell me it would've been different at Harvard?
I realize your greater point of people with resources getting off with a slap on the wrist, but this is not a good example of the opposite, sadder reality for most of us without millions to back up our mistakes. |
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05-06-2008, 09:04 PM
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#19 | | Senior Member
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| Tim Allen spent time in prison for dealing drugs when he was a student at Western Michigan University. And a man I once knew quite well is in prison for the rest of his life for dealing drugs (no, I didn't know ... long story involving a prison break & extradition from Canada). Both men were middle class, regular people. It may well be that some well connected people escape the wrath of the law, but MOST people are going to pay if they get caught dealing drugs.
P.S. There were GUNS (at SDSU)!!!!! That's NOT petty stuff. |
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05-06-2008, 09:20 PM
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#20 | | Senior Member
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| >>I choose harvard not to downplay the school but to show that rules of law applied depends on victims pocketbook and connection. <<
Except that you didn't show that. You merely asserted it.
As has been shown, when a drug case is serious, Harvard is not afraid to arrest its students. It's clear that with guns, hard drugs, dealing, and dead bodies, the SDSU situation was a very serious one. If there were a similar situation at Harvard, I'm confident there would be big busts there too. |
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05-06-2008, 09:24 PM
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#21 | | Senior Member
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| Proudamerican: Quote: |
But I feel bad that so many minority people lanuguish in jail for petty crimes while many walk free.
| Is there evidence that the 100 SDSU students are minority? unconnected? poort? Or did you just assume they are? Do police conducting raids even know any of these details?
As Coureur stated, IF there had been drug dealing as opposed to merely recreational use, HUPD would have made arrests. In fact, it HAS made arrests. |
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05-06-2008, 09:25 PM
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#22 | | Member
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Posts: 528
| proudamerican007: First: Not everybody at Harvard is well connected. I would say most aren't contrary to the myths that are promulgated here. Secondly, when I was a student at a LAC in a small town in upstate NY during a time period when everybody did drugs, the police usually didn't bother students unless the school "requested" them on campus. |
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05-06-2008, 09:32 PM
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#23 | | Senior Member
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| Marite, I wondered about the assumption, as well. Perhaps if the two fraternities mentioned were part of the Black Greek Network, it might be a credible assumption. They are not, though, so it is odd to automatically assume those charged are minorities. Perhaps Proudamerican has info I do not. |
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