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missypie
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The race to boost the GPA is on. In their efforts to take as many AP classes as possible Junior year, lots of students in D's class are signing up for AP Stats for next year. They are coming off of AP Algebra II. The next *recommended *course is pre-AP Pre-Calc; after that, AP Calc or AP Stats is recommended for Sr. year.

They seem to think they can take AP Calc as a senior without having had Pre-Calc (which is a formal prerequisite). If they can get past the not having taken the prerequisite part, how likely are the students to succeed in AP Calc without having had Pre-Calc? I know that there are super math brains who could do Calc without having had*any* prerequisites; I'm talking about the other kids - the more normal "smart at math" kids.

They seem to think they can take AP Calc as a senior without having had Pre-Calc (which is a formal prerequisite). If they can get past the not having taken the prerequisite part, how likely are the students to succeed in AP Calc without having had Pre-Calc? I know that there are super math brains who could do Calc without having had

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## Replies to: Students taking AP Stats before Pre-Calc

253Junior MemberI believe that extra trigonometry will be needed for calc, like all the identities and stuff.

6,200Senior MemberAnd, what the heck is AP Algebra II?

18,145Senior MemberThese kids are doing this to boost their GPA with the extra weighting AP classes give....it's pretty much necessary to be in the top 10%...but of course, it wouldn't be if no one played the game.

14,432Senior MemberDon't you hate the "race" for GPA points?

3,328Senior MemberYou don't need calc for AP Stats, based on my memories of it.

When I was in high school, I was slightly resentful that we didn't weight grades. Now, I'm glad that we didn't. I'm all in favor of taking lots of AP classes because you want to challenge yourself and because you are ready for the classes (it's what I did), but not for the purpose of a class rank competition.

18,145Senior Memberonlytakes 3 APs instead of 6-7, her rank will drop. She actually only wanted to take 2 APs, but added another "to stay in the hunt."It's amazing to consider that there are students in the top 10% of lots of Texas high school who take

noAP classes, and the students at our school need to take 12+ APs to have a shot at it.442Member18,145Senior Member18,145Senior MemberThat's the insanity of what these kids are doing. At our HS, pre-AP gives the student a full point over regular. AP gives 1.25 over regular. So they are taking the classes out of order (or skipping pre-Calc) for a .25 advantage.

18,521Senior MemberThe GPA advantage wouldn't work for us because he'd still need to take precal as a junior. Darn! :)

442MemberThat's crazy. But at least they have some incentive to take the pre-AP course. At D's high school, you get the same GPA points for an A in basic remedial math as you do for an A in precalculus (the accelerated third full year of algebra/full course in trig that is the prerequisite for AP Calc and AP Stats). Go figure.

8,573Senior MemberSo if the schedule permits, the student's capable, and the student's interested in doing so, they may be able to take two math courses in the same year and not have to forego any of them - and get the GPA boost as well.

546Member206Junior MemberThat's asking for failure right there. I only know of one or two students in my entire school that could probably manage that. These kids must either be math geniuses...or...think they are.

And for the people saying Pre-Calc is just an Algebra II repeat...it's not supposed to be. So you guys must've gotten WAY ahead in Algebra II...because I spent a full year learning and mastering Algebra II and I've spent this entire year learning Pre-Calc. I feel like I'm missing something here. :(

194Junior Member