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Old 08-20-2009, 01:27 PM   #1
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Is anyone aware of any online pre-AP German III classes?

D needs to take pre-AP German III but has a schedule conflict. The one source of online pre-AP German III has now restricted its enrollment to their own full time students. Oklahoma State and Indiana U both offer on-line German III, but not pre-AP. I've read about 12 pages of google results, but no pre-AP classes. Does anyone know of one?
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I googled because I wasn't sure what defines "Pre-AP" and found this from the college board:

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Please note: The College Board does not design, develop, or assess courses labeled "Pre-AP." In fact, the College Board discourages the labeling of courses as "Pre-AP." Typically, such courses create a track, thereby limiting access to AP classes. The College Board supports the assertion that all students should have access to preparation for AP and other challenging courses. Courses labeled "Pre-AP" can inappropriately restrict access to AP and other college-level work and as such are inconsistent with the fundamental purpose of the College Board's Pre-AP initiatives, which are professional development workshops designed to help teachers instill more rigor in whatever courses they are teaching students in the years prior to AP.
I take that to mean regular German III would be the right course. You could look at the syllabus and see if that's the right placement.
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Old 08-20-2009, 04:03 PM   #3
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Just wanted to add, the third language course in college may be quite a bit ahead of the third course in high school.
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I take that to mean regular German III would be the right course. You could look at the syllabus and see if that's the right placement.
If the on-line provider does not label the course as Pre-AP (Honors might work, too) the school will not give the course the extra weighting the on-campus Pre-AP class would have had. Our school gives 10 points weight to pre-AP (e.g a 90 in pre-AP = a 100 in regular). I happen to be the mother of Miss 61 out of 600, so a tiny increase in GPA points means a lot to her.
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Just wanted to add, the third language course in college may be quite a bit ahead of the third course in high school.
These are on-line high school courses, taken through the colleges. Most kids at our HS take their on-line courses through the Texas Tech extension program, but they don't offer German.
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Old 08-20-2009, 05:41 PM   #6
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Wow, that must create a lot of craziness. Our school district only allows seniors to take college courses for credit and then only to replace a block at school. They might accept out of school coursework for placement if the students passed the corresponding final exam but never for credit.
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Old 08-20-2009, 05:44 PM   #7
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They aren't college courses. They are high school courses. (Texas Tech actually offers K-12 online classes.)

College of Outreach & Distance Education :: Texas Tech University


Oklahoma State University German Online - Home
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http://www.ncvps.org/courses/catalogue/fall09.html has it, but it's not clear if you have to be a NC resident.

This one says "Gifted", is that good enough for honors?
http://cdis.missouri.edu/exec/public...fo.aspx?k=6213

If she can figure out the right level, she can take college courses at

Ecatalog Subject List -- Schedule of Classes -- Oregon State University -- Extended Campus -- Ecampus

A college course would get at least honors weighting I would think. It might be really hard though.

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Old 08-20-2009, 06:52 PM   #9
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I think the issue has been solved. I don't think there are any such programs, so the teacher is going to teach a few of them German III in a room with German II students. She'll get the weighting without having to take an on-line class.
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