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Old 11-02-2009, 09:52 AM   #1
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The challenge of letting kids go

Parenting: How to Let Your Kids Go | Newsweek Boomer Files | Newsweek.com

In light of a lot of the conversations on this board lately, I thought I'd post this article and see how people are doing with this. I know, for me, it is a daily challenge.
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:30 AM   #2
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"You want that Harvard sticker on your car,"

Could this woman be more of a stereotype...and "she wanted Harvard"...but her son wanted "Yale"......so special.....ugh

Yes, a daily challenge as poetgrl states, but "we're all in this together"...and it will be fine....
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:05 AM   #3
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I came from a culture where parents don't let go ever and literally become a millstone around their kids neck even after marriage, especially for boys. The younger generation is changing but the older generation has no incentive to change since they feel that "I have paid my dues to my parents, now it's my turn to get it all back". Many marriages (of the children) are ruined because of this parental obsession, refusal to let go, and need to control children.

I believe the reasons for difficulty in letting go runs the gamut. On one side, it may be just purely love and longing. On the other side, it's a need to be compensated for all that has gone into raising kids - mostly unstated and subconscious, but nevertheless there. Not compensation in materialistic terms, but compensation emotionally as a way to validate our existence, live vicariously through their experience and success, and whatever else we carry deep within.

As a reaction to the excesses I have seen in my own family (not my current nuclear family but the family I grew up in), I developed my own philosophy.

The Children should be treated like orchids, not vegetables. Orchids' sole purpose is to be there and beautiful. The only enjoyment we get from them is to appreciate their beauty. Compensation for all the care and fuss that go into nurturing orchids is the right to admire it from a distance and knowing that you have something to do with creating that beauty.

Vegetables you grow, on the other hand, you can eat and nourish yourself with. For the evening meal, you pluck the tomatoes and cut the leaves and make a salad. In short, vegetables have a utility, and you, consciously or subconsciously, expect them to be "useful" to us. That utility does not have to be physical or material. The utility often takes the form of validation of our existence, affirmation of our values, confirmation for all right things we have done, a means for us to live vicariously, a way to absolve of ourselves of our past sins and wrong, and even a filler to stuff our emotional void with. This utility runs the gamut: on one side, just a need to be close emotionally, and on the opposite extreme a need to control the children (you should become a doctor, or else I am not paying the tuition!).

In the culture I grew up, this "utility" was very often blatantly demanded of the children. In the culture I live in now, I believe that often it is done very subtly and mostly subconsciously on the part of the parents, but I believe it's still there, perhaps in a low dosage form - maybe even more difficult to deal with since it's not stated openly.

I am very acutely aware of my own needs, and am constantly second guessing my own motive when I steer my kids one way or the other: Am I really doing this for myself, or am I doing this really for their own benefit? Often enough, I have to say, the real motive is not 100% selfless.

I vowed to treat my kids as orchids, not vegetables. And, so far, with freshman S1, I have been doing OK. I have let him dictate the pace of our communication according to his needs and wants. And, he has rewarded me with 3-4 phones call a week to us, and 3-4 rather thoughtful email exchanges a week.

That said, one thing I always strove to instill in my kids is the sense of appreciation for other people's good will and the awareness that they are not just a product of their own genius, but rather a result of good will and good deeds on the part of a lot people who helped them and loved them. A wonderful woman took care of my kids (both of them) for 14 years full time. I consider her by now a family friend. In the last week before S1 left for college, I advised him to take her out to the best restaurant in town and pay for it with the money he earned during his internship in the summer. She stopped by after that, and the look of unabashed joy in her face was priceless. Later that week, he took me, H, and his younger brother out to dinner and insisted on picking up the tab.

Who knows, if I am really lucky, maybe my "orchids" will be "edible flowers"
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:14 AM   #4
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hyeonjlee:

What you sow, you shall reap. Your "orchids" sound beautiful. Another good thing about orchids is that others can enjoy the beauty as well.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:29 AM   #5
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I like this orchid and veggie comparison. I feel very much of a vegetable to my parents.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:41 AM   #6
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Well, clearly in the culture of my family, I was the vegetable and my brother was the orchid!!!

Sorry, off topic wisecrack!!
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:42 AM   #7
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hyeonjlee--lovely metaphor-- I am reminded of the writings of Kahlil Gibran--

"On Children"

"Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,
which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them,
but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

You are the bows from which your children
as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite,
and He bends you with His might
that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let our bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies,
so He loves also the bow that is stable."

I fail at this more than I care to admit, even though I tell mine that she is her own person and she is to find her own path. My own upbringing as a vegetable haunts me and I suppose results in some unfortunate knee-jerk reactions from time to time.

I'm going to make a more conscious effort to treat her as the beautiful fragrant orchid that she is rather than a brussel sprout.

Thanks for the nudge.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:48 AM   #8
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what's challenging for me is the times they are unhappy, which is inevitable, and necessary.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:58 AM   #9
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My younger DD taught me very early in her life that my role was to launch, not pilot.

When she was only 2 1/2 we had a Bible School Program at our church in the summer. I was teaching older kids, and I dropped her off at the nursery program where a woman I knew (a veteran teacher) was teaching. When I returned to pick DD up at the end of the morning, she was under a table and wailing, "Please don't make me go home!"

The woman said, "First case of reverse separation anxiety I have ever seen."

I was ready to die of embarrassment. D only came with me when I reassured her that we were returning the next day.

When she was three and our car snaked its way to the drop- off spot on the first day of nursery school, she jumped out of the car and never looked back. I went home for the first month and waited to make sure nobody called to say she was sick, or hurt, or missed me. Ah, the pre-cell phone days.

I may be slow, but I could see that I was just there to guide her and let her fly. Fortunately, she is one to let me know what is going on her life, but I never ask too many questions and I TRY (emphasis on TRY) not to offer unsolicited advice.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:59 AM   #10
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A wonderful analogy of orchids and veggies. I confess it is never that black and white for me, however much I profess to raising them as orchids.

kantienethicist, I love "On Children" by Gibran.
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Old 11-02-2009, 12:51 PM   #11
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hyeonjlee, that is a beautiful, beautiful post. It clarifies a lot of the difficulties I have been having lately as a father. Like poetgrl, I struggle with how to respond to my son's frequent bouts of gloom and self-doubt. It helps to consider this in light of the orchid/vegetable metaphor, because it makes me realize that even my need to prevent my son from ever being unhappy can all too easily become another way of treating him as a "vegetable"--to make me feel useful and powerful as a parent, and to free myself of any worry that I may have contributed to his troubles. If I step back and realize that unhappiness is a part of life, and must inevitably be part of even his beautiful orchid of a life, I can take a calmer, less self-centered look at what is making him unhappy and what, if anything, I can do to help.
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Old 11-02-2009, 12:53 PM   #12
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Wow, Workinprogres- That was my experience with my S. Never, ever looked back or hesitated no matter what age- right up to the college drop off! Great to hear someone with the same experience!
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:03 PM   #13
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it makes me realize that even my need to prevent my son from ever being unhappy can all too easily become another way of treating him as a "vegetable"--to make me feel useful and powerful as a parent, and to free myself of any worry that I may have contributed to his troubles.
This, my friend, is the highest form of self awareness as a parent!!!!! Very few of us reach that level of enlightenment. Kudos to you!!!
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:18 PM   #14
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As someone whose parents both died while I was fairly young, consider whether your efforts would assist your child in living his life fully if he no longer had parents. Then add more love and less control.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:30 PM   #15
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I like the idea of comparing a child with an orchid. However, I own an orchid plant, and had to delicately tie its stem to a stake by fear it may get damaged. If children are orchids, then parents should be the stake supporting their growth.
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