Top 20 MATRICULATION lists from high school web sites - Page 18

Papa Chicken · 10-25-2005, 08:35 AM

mattmom.....my opinion is yes to both your questions......in sorting & sieving these data, I was struck by how many students were pulled from just a few schools, but recall that this is a very biased sample.....only reported here are high schools that I or others could find posted matriculation lists.

Another interesting statistic is the percentage of any given incoming freshman class represented by the feeder high schools.......I haven't run this for all schools, but that percentage for Princeton, for instance, is roughly 13% for 27 feeder schools which supply on average 3 or more students per year to Princeton.

Papa Chicken · 10-25-2005, 08:52 AM

HARVARD
Exeter NH
Stuyvesant* NY
Andover MA
Harvard Westlake CA
Thomas Jefferson HS * VA
Deerfield MA
Lawrenceville NJ
Milton MA
St Pauls NH
Horace Mann NY
Trinity NY
Choate CT
Collegiate NY
Nobles MA
College Prep CA
Brearley NY
Groton CT
Pine Crest FL

YALE
Exeter NH
Stuyvesant* NY
Andover MA
Harvard Westlake CA
Thomas Jefferson HS * VA
Deerfield MA
Lawrenceville NJ
Milton MA
St Pauls NH
Horace Mann NY
Trinity NY
Choate CT
Pingry NJ
Collegiate NY
Hopkins CT
St Ann's NY
Delbarton NJ
Gilman MD
San Francisco Univ CA
Holton Arms MD
National Cathedral DC
Brearley NY
Groton CT
St Johns TX
Clayton HS * MO

PRINCETON
Exeter NH
Stuyvesant* NY
Andover MA
Harvard Westlake CA
Thomas Jefferson HS * VA
Deerfield MA
Lawrenceville NJ
St Pauls NH
Horace Mann NY
Trinity NY
Pingry NJ
Collegiate NY
St Ann's NY
Delbarton NJ
Gilman MD
Episcopal Acad PA
Holton Arms MD
National Cathedral DC
Bishop's CA
Hun NJ
Menlo CA
St Johns TX
St Marks TX
Westminster GA
Landon MD
Spence NY
Woodberry Forest VA

STANFORD
Exeter NH
Andover MA
Harvard Westlake CA
Thomas Jefferson HS * VA
Lawrenceville NJ
St Pauls NH
San Francisco Univ CA
College Prep CA
Menlo CA
Albuquerque Academy NM
Hockaday TX

MIT
Exeter NH
Stuyvesant* NY
Andover MA
Thomas Jefferson HS * VA
Bishop's CA

* = public HS

Papa Chicken · 10-25-2005, 09:13 AM

Swarthmore
Exeter NH

WILLIAMS
Exeter NH
Stuyvesant* NY
Andover MA
Deerfield MA
Lawrenceville NJ
Milton MA
St Pauls NH
Trinity NY
Choate CT
Collegiate NY
Hopkins CT
Nobles MA
San Francisco Univ CA
Conestoga* PA
McDonogh MD
Sagehill CA
St Andrews DE

AMHERST
Exeter NH
Stuyvesant* NY
Harvard Westlake CA
Thomas Jefferson HS * VA
Deerfield MA
Milton MA
Choate CT
Nobles MA
St Ann's NY
Delbarton NJ
San Francisco Univ CA
Sagehill CA
Poly Prep NY

POMONA
Exeter NH
Stuyvesant* NY
Milton MA
College Prep CA
University Prep WA

* = public HS

Observation.......with 18 HS's making Williams' list, I'd guess that athletic recruiting was an influence. Next highest was Amherst with 13.

Also interesting....Williams & Amherst draw from the same HS's as those feeding the Ivies, as one would expect, with the highest correlation to Yale.

Papa Chicken · 10-25-2005, 09:30 AM

I've defined (albeit imperfectly) Super Feeders to be:

12 or more matriculants per year to:
Penn
Harvard
Columbia
Cornell
Brown
Stanford

9 or more matriculants per year to:
Yale
Princeton
Dartmouth
MIT

6 or more matriculants per year to:
Swarthmore
Williams
Amherst
Pomona

SUPER FEEDERS
Exeter NH: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn
Stuyvesant* NY: Princeton, Cornell, Columbia, Dartmouth, MIT, Williams
Andover MA: Harvard, Yale, Cornell, Brown
Harvard Westlake CA:Penn, Columbia
Thomas Jefferson HS * VA: Princeton, MIT
Horace Mann NY: Cornell, Columbia
Hopkins CT: Yale

Papa Chicken · 10-25-2005, 09:31 AM

all for now.....will pick up with Catholic/Jesuit college assessment and perhaps some more demographics analysis sometime soon.

tokenadult · 10-25-2005, 11:55 AM

A reply a few posts up in this thread asked about socioeconomic diversity at the Ivies if they take a lot of students from elite preps. But the elite preps themselves cast a very wide net looking for students. Exeter, for sure, participates in A Better Chance (ABC) and Prep for Prep, both programs to find low socioeconomic status, usually URM students and bring them into a challenging prep school environment. Exeter and Andover are both a LOT more ethnically diverse than the public high school I attended, for example. Each of those top prep schools ahs a lot of students attending on FULL need-based scholarship. Stuyvesant is of course a public high school, theoretically available to any smart New York City student, although its socioeconomic profile and ethnic profile both differ from those of the city's public schools as a whole.

Top feeder schools are top feeder schools precisely because they can provide a MIX of students who are all prescreened by academic ability and proven to be good, challenging academic environments for almost all of their enrollees.

leanid · 10-25-2005, 02:59 PM

What about Hotchkiss, no matriculation data? Not a "feeder"?

leanid · 10-25-2005, 03:01 PM

By the way, PC, Groton is in MA not CT.

Papa Chicken · 10-25-2005, 03:57 PM

no Hotchkiss info available at the time I did the original web perusing, but I just checked again, and lo&behold their matriculation list is now posted, so I'll add that soon.

& I stand corrected on Groton....yes, Mass.......I am sure there are other errors in this info & analysis, so please keep that in mind.

Papa Chicken · 10-25-2005, 04:24 PM

Class size: 152
% Ivy, Stanford, MIT, + SWAP in Top 20: 21%
Feeder score = 11

This score puts Hotchkiss at a feeder rank of 4th, tied w/ T Jefferson HS & Harvard Westlake.

1 Georgetown University - 30
2 Middlebury College - 22
3 Cornell University - 19
3 University of Pennsylvania - 19
5 Bowdoin College - 18
5 Duke University - 18
5 Yale University - 18
8 Harvard University - 17
9 Brown University - 15
10 Trinity College/CT - 14
10 University of Virginia - 14
12 Davidson College - 13
13 Dartmouth College - 12
13 New York University - 12
15 Boston University - 11
15 St. Lawrence University - 11
15 University of Vermont - 11
18 Boston College - 10
18 Columbia University - 10
18 Princeton University - 10
18 Stanford University - 10
18 Union College - 10

Papa Chicken · 10-25-2005, 04:31 PM

As just proven with Hotchkiss, schools are constantly updating their web sites, and I have noticed that the time many seem to do so is in Sept & October; hence, some of the data posted on this thread are undoubtedly outdated already, but probably good enough for this little exercise.

cheers · 10-25-2005, 06:21 PM

Catholic universities do give priority to Catholic kids who have been educated in Catholic schools--according to my friends who sit on the executive boards of Catholic universities.

And so they should--if they want to maintain the Catholic mission of their institutions.

sjmom2329 · 10-25-2005, 06:37 PM

Cheers, that's a fair assessment of the admissions philosophy of Catholic universities. That's a little different from saying that the preference is dictated by the Vatican. Actually, many US Catholic colleges are much more liberal in terms of faculty outlook than you might think, and that's where the Vatican may occasionally weigh in.

par72 · 10-26-2005, 12:47 AM

Georgetown, Holy Cross, and Notre Dame have relied on top Jesuit and other private Catholic prep schools for decades just as the Ivies had a pipeline from the elite boarding/prep schools.

leanid · 10-26-2005, 10:37 AM

And NOW (by "NOW" one could probably include the last twentyfive years or so) I think you will see that Boston College, Georgetown, Holy Cross and, to a lesser extent (correct me if I am wrong), Notre Dame are enrolling many, as many and sometimes more sudents (especially Georgetown) from the "elite boarding/prep schools" than the Ivies are.

What does that say? More diversity in the Ivies? More diversity in the prep schools? More diversity in the Catholic colleges? Top Catholic colleges on par with the Ivies?