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Easiest med schools M.D/D.O schools to get into

Columbia09Columbia09 Posts: 961Registered User Member
edited October 2012 in Pre-Med Topics
I know med school is hard to get into but some schools are easier to get into compared to others. What are those med schools? I'm a NY resident so I'm guessing that the state med schools will be easier for me to get into compared to other private/out of state schools. And by easy I mean schools that have 40% above acceptance rates. Oh and foreign med schools don't count.
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  • WayOutWestMomWayOutWestMom Posts: 6,405Registered User Senior Member
    The only places to find that data are in the MSAR (available at your college library/career services office or via an online subscription for $25 at AMCAS) at USNews (Also a $25 subscription)

    Some schools may post their acceptance data on their admissions website. (UMich does.) But most schools aren't that transparent.

    Right now I don't have access to either MSAR or USNews.

    But AFAIK, there aren't any which have 40% or higher acceptance rates. (You might see a 40% acceptance rate among interviewees, but not among applicants.)
  • Brian1Brian1 Posts: 135Registered User Junior Member
    Percentages alone may not depict the whole picture, since a lot of people may be deterred from applying to reaches like Harvard.

    If you're in state in Texas or Mass, it's almost a joke getting in. So if you're serious about cheap in state tuition and relatively easy admissions stats, maybe make a move to that state first and work for a few years. Here's a list someone else compiled.

    "According to US News - if you disregard the DO schools - the easiest schools to get into (according to their premium list hardest and easiest medical schools to get into) is what I have below (in order from easiest to hardest thru NYMC). To come up with this list they used GPA, MCAT, and acceptance rates. Their complete list ranks everyone from the top to the bottom, and considering how much money already goes into the medical school applications game, everyone should really be willing to spend another $15 to get it on-line. It has very helpful profiles of each school. Also, realize that a lot of these schools will accept anyone with a pulse in-state, but accept <1-5% OOS, so they are still not necessarily that easy to get into unless you're considering a move first.

    Howard University (DC)
    Ohio University (I think this is DO)
    Oklahoma State University (I think this is DO)
    A.T. Still University of Health Sciences (Kirksville) (MO) (I think this is DO)
    University of Missouri--Kansas City
    Southern Illinois University--Springfield
    University of Louisville (KY)
    East Carolina University (Brody) (NC)
    Wright State University (OH)
    University of North Dakota
    University of Arizona
    Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science (IL)
    Michigan State University
    Florida State University
    East Tennessee State Univ. (Quillen)
    University of South Carolina
    University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences
    U. of Texas Health Science Center--San Antonio
    University of Tennessee Health Science Center
    George Washington University (DC)
    Virginia Commonwealth University
    Wayne State University (MI)
    University of New Mexico
    Uniformed Services Univ. of the Health Sciences (Hebert) (MD)
    Northeastern Ohio Univ. College of Medicine
    SUNY--Syracuse
    New York Medical College"

    Maybe also take a look at Creighton and Loma Linda.
  • WayOutWestMomWayOutWestMom Posts: 6,405Registered User Senior Member
    AACOM is more transparent than AAMC.

    Here's a list of all DO schools in the US with the number of applicants and acceptances each year for the past 5 years.

    http://www.aacom.org/data/studentenrollment/Documents/Apps_Enroll_Grads_by_COM.pdf.pdf

    I didn't calculate percentages for all of them but all appear to be under 20%. Most are around 12-15%.
  • WayOutWestMomWayOutWestMom Posts: 6,405Registered User Senior Member
    Brian's list is pretty useless since a number of the schools he's listed are public state medical schools which accept in some cases no or an extremely low number of OOS state applicants. Including: SIU (no OOS), UNM (<1% OOS), FSU (no OOS) , ETS (<4% OOS), UTX-SA (<4% OOS), ECU (no OOS).

    And he's dead wrong about GW--GW is noted for having among the LOWEST acceptance rates in the country. It's just 3% according to US News.

    10 Medical Schools With Lowest Acceptance Rates - US News and World Report

    He appears to be confusing acceptance stats and acceptance RATES.

    (BTW, Brian, I have kid attending one of the schools you listed. I can assure you that it does not accept "accept anyone with a pulse in-state". The in-state acceptance rate is around 28-29%. It's overall acceptance rate is much, much lower. Let's keep things pleasant and honest. OK?)
  • Brian1Brian1 Posts: 135Registered User Junior Member
    If you actually read my post, you would see the caveat that while a lot of these accept anyone with a pulse instate, it's still hard OOS. You can always move and gain in state admissions though. You could save a lot of tuition money and greatly increase your admissions prospects.

    But if you are a New York resident, you should look at the SUNYs, NYMC, and Albany, Creighton, Loma Linda, Vermont, etc.

    Also acceptance rates are not necessarily correlated with "harder to get in." A lot of people with low scores apply to lower ranked schools because they self-select out of applying to higher tier schools that they have no shot at. At high ranked schools, they typically only interview 36-38 MCATs. If you have a 32, you probably won't bother applying. Some of the schools in the top 10 of "lowest acceptance rates" have average MCATs of 30 or 31. Are you arguing that these schools are harder to get into than WUSTL or John Hopkins? My list looks at the GPA, MCAT, and acceptance rates for schools. Acceptance rates alone are useless.
  • Columbia09Columbia09 Posts: 961Registered User Member
    I'm not moving to Massachusetts or Texas so that's out. Wayoutmom, the D.O list you posted, where are those schools located and whats their names? And I see two schools on that list that are in my state, SUNY Syracuse and New York medical college. You say that these schools are very easy to get into if you're an in state student?
  • WayOutWestMomWayOutWestMom Posts: 6,405Registered User Senior Member
  • Columbia09Columbia09 Posts: 961Registered User Member
    Is there a list like this for P.A and M.D schools
  • WayOutWestMomWayOutWestMom Posts: 6,405Registered User Senior Member
    List of accredited PA programs:

    ARC-PA / Accreditation Programs

    But please note that a number of these are direct admit 6 year programs which do not accept new students for the grad portion of the program. (Also the program at Red Rocks CC in CO, only accepts students who have substantial prior healthcare experience--i.e. only paramedics, nurses and other allied healthcare services providers like PT, OT.)

    List of all US medical schools by state (allopathic and osteopathic)

    List of medical schools in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  • bluebayoubluebayou Posts: 21,324Registered User Senior Member
    Maybe also take a look at Creighton and Loma Linda.

    Both schools also receive self-selected applicants. Creighton is a Jesuit college, and like Loyola and Georgetown Med which also have "lower" stats, all require a certain 'something' in the app other than stats.

    Loma Linda also has a certain bent, and top stats kids who don't have the something extra will lose out nearly every time to a lower stat applicant who does have that something extra.

    My point is that without that 'special sauce' (which is extremely different than a public med requirement), an applicant has near zero chance at acceptance to Creighton or LL, regardless of stats.
  • Columbia09Columbia09 Posts: 961Registered User Member
    But please note that a number of these are direct admit 6 year programs which do not accept new students for the grad portion of the program.

    Where is this indicated?
  • WayOutWestMomWayOutWestMom Posts: 6,405Registered User Senior Member
    No single list. You'll have to check each school's site individually.

    Sorry!
  • Brian1Brian1 Posts: 135Registered User Junior Member
    2011-2012 Loma Linda Application Thread | Allopathic School-Specific Discussions | Student Doctor Network LL still accepts non-religious people, as long as you follow their lifestyle policies. It's not a complete bar to admission. I don't care enough to look up the other schools but I'm sure you can find more information about those schools on that forum.
    (BTW, Brian, I have kid attending one of the schools you listed. I can assure you that it does not accept "accept anyone with a pulse in-state". The in-state acceptance rate is around 28-29%. It's overall acceptance rate is much, much lower. Let's keep things pleasant and honest. OK?)

    I think a ~30% admit rate for in staters is pretty good for grad admissions. I guess we have different cutoff standards but objectively speaking that's a pretty good rate for admission into most grad programs in most fields.

    Columbia, here's the thread for NYMC. Not sure about the in state stuff since it's a private school, but it seems as if it's generally considered a safety school with easy secondaries. According to this thread, most of its class is pulled from the waitlist since it has trouble getting students to matriculate. This is good news if you're applying.
    http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=895237&page=11
    http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=711240
  • bluebayoubluebayou Posts: 21,324Registered User Senior Member
    I think a ~30% admit rate is pretty good...
    while a lot of these accept anyone with a pulse instate...

    Are the other 70% therefore dead, i.e., without a pulse? :rolleyes:
  • WayOutWestMomWayOutWestMom Posts: 6,405Registered User Senior Member
    ^^^ according to the CDC we should be expecting a zombie apocalypse any day now so I suppose it's possible.
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