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What classes count towards your science GPA?

gd016gd016 Posts: 373Registered User Member
edited December 2010 in Pre-Med Topics
So, I think it seems to be the general consensus that your overall GPA and your science GPA are two different factors considered in med school admissions.

Does anyone know what classes exactly count towards your science GPA: only the core classes (gen chem, orgo, physics, bio) or also any other science classes you take (i.e. a 100-level bio class on life sciences, 200-level chem class on analytical chem, etc.)
What about a psych class called intro to neuroscience, or what about a 200 level cognitive science class on the brain and cognition?
Do math classes also count towards your science GPA?

Any input would be appreciated.
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Replies to: What classes count towards your science GPA?

  • ysk1ysk1 Posts: 740Registered User Member
    ALL the math, chem, physics and bio courses you take count towards your science GPA.
  • jmercjmerc Posts: 99Registered User Junior Member
    Calculus level math is counted towards your science GPA. But what about pre-cal?
  • norcalguynorcalguy Posts: 7,541Registered User Senior Member
    Non-calc math classes also count towards your BPCM GPA. Math isn't just calculus.
  • bluedevilmikebluedevilmike Posts: 11,964Registered User Senior Member
    AMCAS mostly pays attention to department listing, so psych is unlikely to count. Cognitive science I'm less sure of.
  • DeltaRoyaleDeltaRoyale Posts: 596Registered User Member
    And I also heard that classes like earth science and other sciences not in the ones BDM listed don't count either...?
  • yg18yg18 Posts: 243Registered User Junior Member
    Nutrition count?
  • bluedevilmikebluedevilmike Posts: 11,964Registered User Senior Member
    Is it Biology, Chemistry, Physics, or Math?
  • DeltaRoyaleDeltaRoyale Posts: 596Registered User Member
    Your Science or "BCPM" GPA

    Hello. I had a quick question for you: what do I count in my pre-med GPA? Is it all science courses or just the required pre-med courses? Do engineering and math classes count? What about astrophysics and geoscience? Thanks so much for your help.

    Answer: Your "pre-med" GPA is more commonly known as your science GPA, and sometimes referred to as your "BCPM" GPA (Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Math). When you apply to medical schools using the online AMCAS application, you may include any course under the "BCPM" heading if over 50% of the content of the class was one of those four basic science subjects, regardless of the course number, professor, or Department. AMCAS leaves these decisions up to you; you are the person who categories your courses as science or "all other." So when we ask for your science GPA, that's what we mean. Engineering, Geosciences, Astrophysics, some Psychology and Neuroscience…there are many fields that involve "science," but according to your med school applications a majority of the courses must be Bio, Chem, Physics, or Math.

    This is from Health Professions Advising - Princeton University


    Would I be correct in saying that it depends on you?
  • ysk1ysk1 Posts: 740Registered User Member
    Would I be correct in saying that it depends on you?
    If so, then that's ridiculous. I'd like to know about it, too.
  • norcalguynorcalguy Posts: 7,541Registered User Senior Member
    You can mark the class down as whatever you want. AAMC will correct you.

    They will look at two things to determine whether it is a science course or not: the department it's offered under and the title. Courses offered under BPCM departments are science obviously. Certain other courses can also be counted as science. I've seen stats and biological psychology counted as science even when not offered by the math or bio department.
  • ysk1ysk1 Posts: 740Registered User Member
    You can mark the class down as whatever you want. AAMC will correct you.

    Med schools receive lots of applications, and examining each application to confirm that all of an applicant's BCPM courses are BCPM and all of the AO are AO will take a lot of time. On top of that they may have many other tasks like evaluating EC's.
  • norcalguynorcalguy Posts: 7,541Registered User Senior Member
    Medical schools don't verify your courses. The AAMC does. That's what you pay them for: they receive all of your transcripts and go through your courses (ONE BY ONE) to make sure your courses are listed correctly and then they calculate your BPCM, overall, and AO GPA's. Then they send the verified app to med schools.

    This is why we tell you to apply early. In June, when I turned in my app, my application was verified in only 2 days. By August and September, there was such a backlog that it was taking 6-8 weeks before your app was verified.
  • bluedevilmikebluedevilmike Posts: 11,964Registered User Senior Member
    AMCAS has a very specific set of rules: statistics (or anything in the statistics department) is Math; etc.

    They WILL go through with a fine-toothed comb. They WILL correct you. And they WILL err on the side of exclusion rather than inclusion when in doubt.
  • yg18yg18 Posts: 243Registered User Junior Member
    What kind of information has to be provided for the application from the applicant? Course description?
  • bluedevilmikebluedevilmike Posts: 11,964Registered User Senior Member
    Department, number, title, grade received.
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