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Do you think males have a better chance at getting in?

edujunkyedujunky Posts: 52Registered User Junior Member
edited November 2012 in Prep School Admissions
Do you think more females apply and are at a more competitive position with all the other girls(and yes I know they dont pin them up agaist each other and decide which of the 2 girls goes), oppose to males who have less other males to compete with. Yes I know they dont just choose how many boys or girls will be in the school. But do you think gender has any role in acceptence?
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Replies to: Do you think males have a better chance at getting in?

  • GMTplus7GMTplus7 Posts: 6,344Registered User Senior Member
    Yes I know they dont just choose how many boys or girls will be in the school

    Yes they so. The schools are deliberately building a 50:50 class of boys:girls.
  • 2prepMom2prepMom Posts: 1,024Registered User Senior Member
    I agree that there is "crafting" of the class to achieve 50:50 gender balance in co-ed schools. Similar to college admissions, the most over-qualified group is thought to be Asian females - for them it is much harder to gain admission because there are likely "soft" quotas. This is discussed frequently on CC boards.
  • edujunkyedujunky Posts: 52Registered User Junior Member
    Okay, now I know that they try to from a class 50:50, boys:girls. But now that I know that, do you think males have a better chance of acceptence because their are less males to choose from usually, because not as many males apply as females, or is that wrong too? BTW thanks for the infor on the 50:50 class forming thing
  • 2kidsnoanswers2kidsnoanswers Posts: 555Registered User Member
    Well, I looked rather closely into this at a few schools last year. I was trying to get a sense of their attrition, actually, but the numbers were given to me as # boys and # girls by grade, and it was clear that across grades, these schools had somewhat more boys than girls. I have no idea if it was because there were just more boys applying, or more qualified boys applied, or more boys stayed, or what have you. And it might have been just these schools in that snapshot that year. It stood out to me because it was consistent. I would guess the schools probably try for a 50:50 mix, and if anything, it would be an advantage to be a girl, at least at those schools.
  • edujunkyedujunky Posts: 52Registered User Junior Member
    Oh wow another good fact!
  • GMTplus7GMTplus7 Posts: 6,344Registered User Senior Member
    @2kids,

    Keep in mind that while the schools try to craft a 50:50 class, they also have to contend with the unpredictability of "yield".

    Andover in recent years has had ~75% yield rate, meaning that they accepted ~33% more kids than available slots because they estimate that a quarter of the accepted applicants will choose to go elsewhere. They cannot predict the exact number of boys & girls in that group that decides to go elsewhere.

    In the event that schools overestimate their yield and have to draw from their Wait List, then I suppose they would use that opportunity to try to achieve the 50:50 balance.
  • 2kidsnoanswers2kidsnoanswers Posts: 555Registered User Member
    Good point, GMT.

    The unpredictability of exact yield can easily skew things in the rather small numbers comprising a particular boarding school class.

    I recall a discussion a year or so ago about an unexpected number of girls accepting their Deerfield offers, leading to a bit of crowding in the dorms for that year, where some normally 2-girl rooms had to accommodate 3 girls. I would imagine the following year, a school would adjust for this, and admit a few less of a particular gender.

    Makes generalizations just about impossible.
  • GMTplus7GMTplus7 Posts: 6,344Registered User Senior Member
    @2kids,
    A very, very minor point: Deerfield dorms are singles

    @edujunky,
    I don't really know if boys have a better shot than girls. Applicant selection is a dark and well-guarded secret art by admissions people.
  • 2kidsnoanswers2kidsnoanswers Posts: 555Registered User Member
    Ok, well, if nothing else is concluded in this thread, I think I have just proved that indeed, it is true that a few brain cells are shed with the birth of each child! Dang.

    I do remember something about putting three in a dorm room due to over-enrollment....now which school was it? Guess not Deerfield...
  • 2kidsnoanswers2kidsnoanswers Posts: 555Registered User Member
    Ok, here's a couple of threads from recent years that might help. They address over enrollment due to higher than anticipated yield at various schools, including Deerfield and SPS:

    see #41 here:
    http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/prep-school-admissions/701361-official-deerfield-admissions-stats-3.html#post8225845

    http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/prep-school-admissions/848464-over-underenrollment-gender.html?highlight=triple+over+enrolled#post9501334
  • classicalmamaclassicalmama Posts: 1,935Registered User Senior Member
    2kids: I'm remembering Andover. Last year--or the year before that. But I don't specifically remember it being girls...not that that would prove anything for the OP, since overenrollment is about predicting yield, not admits.
  • WillemSWillemS Posts: 84Registered User Junior Member
    I think you'd also be surprised at the numbers of boys that come in as recruits for various sports. Recruits at the school I'm at now (NMH) could account for 10 or 15% of the population of students, and most recruits are boys. So there already might be 10 or 15% of a class of boys already filled. That would make non-recruit spots more competitive.
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