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Old 06-06-2012, 10:57 AM   #16
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@bison
I tried for 5 years to get some interest in a state residential exam entry math and science school in Ohio; as a parent I was part of the state assoc of gifted, and went to Columbus several times. It takes a certain opportunity and a critical mass, which Ohio does not have. Ohio does completely support PSEO (pays tuition at college for 11th and 12th graders), and supports wonderful state universities, so it's not all bad.

If you have a gifted child, check out the opportunities in your state. We almost moved to Indiana for their wonderful Indiana math and science academy. Most states have such schools.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:26 PM   #17
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My IQ's a little over 200. Would andover or Exeter be challenging for me? Any personal experience?
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Old 06-19-2012, 07:38 PM   #18
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HarvardRox, may I ask your age? Did you grade-skip, and if so, when? Thanks.
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:30 PM   #19
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Sorry, granny2. I'm not going to post my age since I also posted my IQ and I don't want to reveal too much.
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:26 PM   #20
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Coming into this late, but since we're in a new application season I thought I'd add my DYS's experience to the mix. She is a one-grade but 1 1/2 to 2-year young skipped freshman at an excellent non-HADES school where she is thriving.

The flexibility of her school's independent study program and unbelievably warm environmant was what tipped her (and us), toward the "lesser-known gem" over Exeter, where she was also accepted. While her first quarter was more "engaging and inspiring" than "extremely challenging", the social and academic environment and fact that she can still carve out a couple of hours a day for music practice without keeling over from overwork, is working so far. She seems to feel that the teachers are ramping it up and will push her (after Parents' Weekend I'd have to agree--very inspiring), and that the other students are driven -- no one, in her opinion, is phoning it in.

For some PG kids it might be different, but ours is less concerned about being surrounded by the PG crowd than that she has found a critical mass of self-styled "geeks"—particularly "girl geeks". That many of them are possibly PG or HG as well is just a bonus.

For our part, we have found that if we focus only on issues of "giftedness" or academic competition, we miss half of what our DYS is all about. But I'll absolutely echo every other DYS parent on this thread and attest that DITD is an unbelievable resource. Not every PG kid is, or needs to be, involved with Davidson. But for those who lack local resources or really could use help with advocacy or simply the support of a vast network of parents of PG kids (especially in the years before high school), DITD is invaluable.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:00 PM   #21
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This is my first post... I have an eighth grade daughter considering BS next year. I'm happy to find out that gifted students are doing well and perhaps happier and more satisfied at academically challenging BS.

I would like to share my trip to Baltimore last Sunday (yes, we were worried about Sandy but it turned out alright). My family were there to attend a CTY SET (Study of Exceptional Talent) ceremony for my DD13. The keynote speaker at the ceremony was a current Johns Hopkins professor and SET alumna. She also went to Exeter, followed by Princeton and Vanderbilt (for MD). She mentioned that she was very happy at Exeter and that she still has great friendship with one of her teachers.

While we still have to go through application/admission process, but we are keenly looking forward to how exciting it would be for my DD to learn from the teachers she can respect intellectually, to interact with other bright and motivated students, and just to be herself in an environment where she won't have to hide or pretend to be "normal."
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:58 AM   #22
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well arnt you cool

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Old 11-30-2012, 12:49 AM   #23
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@Granny2

Just wanted to thank you for sending the PM to me. CC has not enabled my account to PM yet since I guess I haven't done enough actual college posts yet (ha ha- a few more years for that)! But I did want to tell you that I really appreciated your good advice and that I will be doing exactly as you mentioned for sure. Cheers!
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:00 AM   #24
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Gofor... one more post and your PM privileges should become available.
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Old 12-03-2012, 03:42 PM   #25
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Advise Regarding a younger child

Hello,


Can anyone offer their experience or advise of dealing with their children at a younger age?


I have two children, my D is 14 and was tested by her PS district as highly gifted in middle school. She is currently reapplying for boarding school (victim of FA waitlists last year . Her school experience was uneventful and she seemed to do average as a bright child. She continues to do well.

My S is 8. His school did a preliminary testing last spring which put him into a broad spectrum of gifted. The school at the time said they would be doing a more involved test (such as my daughter had) over the summer. The phone call never came. I suspect the school switching to a charter plus our states budget cuts contribute...

Now that he is in 3rd grade, he has just about had it. He was very excited last year since we told him he would be placed in a class with other children at his level. This kind of happened... There are 3 other advanced children in his class. The rest of the class is either learning disabled or slower learners. I guess they took all the kids who werent in the middle and put them together???

My S has become the student every teacher dreads. He reads a book during her lectures. Gets up and walks around the class room. Refuses to do any class work. We make him do his HW every night and check it. He breezes through it but I found out during his conference he never turns it in.

His teacher tried to set up a meeting with the school psychologist. He was refused because he tests within 99% of any standardized tests.

His teacher says he reads his books (he is reading and comprehending at early HS level) all through class then has his hand up for all the Q and A portion and is always correct and insightful. He aces all his tests.

One thing that has me worried is he has always been a few grades ahead in math. He has stopped progressing in math the last month or so (that I notice). He is stuck at 4 digit multiplication. When the teacher pressed him (without instruction, she assumed he would know what to do) he had a bit of a mental break down. I suspect this is the first time something has not been instinctive for him. He was subtracting 3 digit numbers in his head at 4 years old. He also taught himself to read billboards (multiple syllable words) at about the same age.

Someone emailed me the name of a private day school in our area that only accepts gifted children of IQs of 148 and higher. I am in the process of setting up a Westlers (sp?) test. $800 ouch! The school does not provide applications unless you have a test from the psychologist meeting their requirements.

After going through the boarding school admissions last year, I am assuming gaining entry into this very elite school is not a given. I am seeking to help my son develop both socially and intellectually with what ever resources are available to us. He is such a curious learner with so many ideas, I cant stand the thought of a well meaning public school affecting his outlook on learning and life.

I am already reading through some o the articles and websites mentioned above. Personal insights and experience is what I am asking about specifically.

Thanks!
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:11 AM   #26
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I'm actually surprised to learn that your PS did not administer psychologist evaluation and IQ test (Wechsler... or WISC-IV) for free, despite obvious signs of giftedness. That said, the laws governing gifted education vary from state to state, so you might want to check out your state laws and better understand your rights. Hoagies' Gifted website can be a useful resource for your research:

In general, PS systems are good at special education (for physically or mentally disabled) but bad at gifted education. Boarding schools, especially those that have been actively discussed here, do much better job, and I bet gifted students are over-represented in those schools. So I'm think you're in a right place. But I would also suggest to look into gifted consultation organizations such as CTY and Davidson:

CTY Study of Exceptional Talent
Davidson Institute Young Scholars Program

Davidson provides excellent consultation for various gifted needs as well as free gifted education if you live in Reno, NV or willing to relocate.

Hope things work out for your children.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:32 AM   #27
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@Sharing, unfortunately, it's not unusual for PS or school districts to drag their feet about paying for IQ testing, at least in my neck of the woods, and I'd imagine elsewhere. NCLB has seen to that -- there's simply not a lot to gain by serving the gifted (I could go on, but I'll leave it for now).

@Hailu, like the school you are considering for your son, Davidson also requires WISC-IV or one of a couple of other IQ tests, in addition to some other validation such as achievement testing or a portfolio of student work.

The CC boards are probably not the best place to gain information to address your son's needs, since they primarily deal with somewhat older kids. However, even if you are not yet involved with the Davidson Institute, their website has a wonderful bulletin board that is free and open to the public. It can be found here:

Gifted Issues Discussion Forum - Forums powered by UBB.threads™

You can lurk or you can join and pose specific questions. From your description of your son and his school behavior, I guarantee you will find discussions that address exactly the academic and emotional issues you have outlined.

I also recommend SENG, an organization dedicated to supporting the emotional needs of the gifted (thus the acronym):

SENG
SENG Newsletter Archive SENG

Though their website is a bit sprawling, it does contain some helpful information. Davidson also is committed to addressing the social and emotional development of profoundly gifted children.

Best of luck to you.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:59 PM   #28
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Thank You for all the info. I have stumbled across some of these. The Psychologist giving my son the test this week also sent me lots of resources local to our area. He mentioned that he would also be helping us connect with other schools and make some school suggestions that he will have once he has met and tested my son. Im glad I found him, he seems very committed to the education of the gifted.

On another note, my son came home with a flyer from his school inviting us to an open meeting for parents of gifted children to discuss the schools program, happening tomorrow...

Thank again for the head start on info!
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:13 PM   #29
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Glad to hear it, Hailu, and good luck with the testing, schools, and sometimes daunting task of keeping it all rolling!
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:24 PM   #30
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This thread has a pretentious feel to it.
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