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Old 12-17-2011, 01:35 AM   #16
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Mine also says that "Often a deferral means that the committee would like to see your senior year academic performance."

I think everyone got the same message:
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The admissions committee has completed its Early Action deliberations and has deferred a decision on your application until the spring. We received more than 3,000 early applications, and we had many more qualified candidates than we could admit. The committee recognized your record of achievement and appreciated the time, care and effort you put into your application.

Often a deferral means that the committee would like to see your senior year academic performance. Your application will be reconsidered in February and March with the entire applicant pool; be sure the Mid-Year School Report is sent to us as soon as your mid-year grades are available. If you would like us to review additional information, please send it to us by the end of January. Please be aware that we expect our Regular Decision process to attract a strong applicant pool.

We realize this defer decision is disappointing news, especially since Princeton may have been your first choice. We look forward to evaluating your application again with the rest of the applicant pool.
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:43 AM   #17
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You got this on the application tracker?
I didn't get the full message. I literally got the two sentences saying I was deferred and they'd like to see my senior year academic performance. Definitely nothing about "strong pool in regular" or "disappointing news".
So what do you guys think?
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:48 AM   #18
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You got this on the application tracker?
Yup.

Now you have me rather worried. If they personalize them, I'm quite concerned that mine is toward the "this is just a rejection-in-disguise" end.
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Old 12-17-2011, 02:22 AM   #19
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my midyear report (first term marks)is horrendous, including a C+ in a science class (really bad at sciences but good at blabbing/writing). I'd worried that C+ might kick me out when I got in, but now I have worse things to worry about.

How important is the midyear report for deferees? and they asked to see my "academic performance"? oh gosh.
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Old 12-17-2011, 02:24 AM   #20
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Honestly, that's a serious problem. The midyear report is extremely important for deferees.

I'm extremely anxious for getting my grades next week... I'd thought they wouldn't matter much, but now they're clearly going to be what determines my fate at Princeton.
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Old 12-17-2011, 02:25 AM   #21
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I'd always maintained high eighties in that subject; this year got much harder, most people are getting 60's and 70's.
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Old 12-17-2011, 02:53 AM   #22
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A have a similar concern. I didn't know when we had to sent the Mid Year Report so I already sent it in with the EA app and it has poor grades (75-80%), even though I'm near the top of my class.
I have another series of mid-year-ish exams in Jan. Can I send in their grades in the Optional Report, or as a second Mid Year Report or something?
Also, about the Final Report. When is it due? My final grades are due in May, which is after the decision. Does that mean my Final Report is not really evaluative in my decision? Or is the Final Report the report of the last exams we take before the decision?

Please help, anyone! :/
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Old 12-17-2011, 11:32 AM   #23
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dancingjuicedesu: at least you kind of know what got you deferred.
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Old 12-17-2011, 11:34 AM   #24
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I don't think they consider final reports. Only Mid-year ones.
The problem is that every school has different marking schemes, so that a 75% at one school may actually be equivalent to a 90% at another. I'm in the IB program, so I always have this problem (our grades are only inflated - bell-curved - properly in February). It's up to your guidance counsellor to explain exactly where you place...something which I don't think the counsellor at our school did, since everyone who applied got rejected/deferred. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
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Old 12-17-2011, 12:25 PM   #25
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haha i don't think they specialize the deferral letters. thats too much work for the adcom. and i don't know why i got deferred and i feel so bad right now. i feel like it's because i applied for engineering without a sat 2 for chem or physics...and i explained why and everything and said i would like to be considered for arts and science instead if they don't let me apply. but idk, i guess since engineering was my first choice, i was considered for engineering and not the strongest candidate. i should have just applied for arts and science if i had known i'm so upset right now...and i already sent in my grades for first trimester as a senior and they were like my best grades ever...and i don't know. so stressed. im gonna get rejected everywhere.
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Old 12-17-2011, 12:37 PM   #26
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Everyone seems to have a reason why they got deferred. Please help in analyzing my reason: 1. not quirky enough essays
2. not good enough math things
3. SAT 2: math 2 800 chem 770 physics 720
4.?
and starrynight509: I did get only two sentences. So this must be a really rare situation; there's something that I really need to have to show them in order to get in.
I just want to vent......
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Old 12-17-2011, 04:36 PM   #27
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Oh, wow. I didn't know this thread even existed until now. I was busy trying to console myself after seeing that I got deferred. What I basically did, was I got up at 4 AM the next morning and started mass-finishing and submitting (I started but didn't finish a lot of apps because I was admittedly counting on Princeton) apps to other schools. I also went to a sleepover with my best friend because I knew it'd keep my mind off of it.

I'm also worried about what I'm going to do when I go back to school after the holidays. All my teachers were really supportive and have repeatedly reminded me to let them know if I have "any good news." with the whole "*hint* *hint* *nudge nudge* kind of thing. It doesn't help that an unprecedented number of kids from my school with similar stats as me got accepted EA/ED to Ivy League schools like Harvard and Yale (surprisingly none to Princeton, hmmm...) I'm seriously hoping that they just forget about my applying early to Princeton, since I won't find out until April, anyway.

I don't know, guys. I shed a few tears (all right, a LOT of tears) after I found out but now I'm just like: *sigh* ._.

Do any of you know if getting deferred from EA increases your chances in the RD round? And I'm wondering about the midyear reports as well. Will it really make that big of a difference (ie: tipping the scales to your favor so you get accepted) if it shows you did well in senior year or did they just say all that to make us feel better? I suspect that one of the main reasons I got deferred was because I didn't submit the first-quarter grades of senior year like they recommended since my school only sends grades out after the end of each semester.

Oops. Sorry for this rather long post guys. Effect of dwelling on all this for the last few days, I guess. Oh, and juliamarie, I'm in the same boat as you in that I'm a lit-major-looking-into-the-creative-writing-program that has been published a couple of times/wanted me an author since I was little (and yes, working with professors like Joyce Carol Oates and Chang-rae Lee WOULD be a dream come true.) I got a good score on the math section on the SAT, but my other stats in terms of math aren't that great. :/

Good luck to all of you that got deferred. Hopefully we'll all have good news (even if it's not from Princeton) by April.

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Old 12-17-2011, 05:28 PM   #28
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Ugh, I just don't even feel like getting up right now...
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Old 12-17-2011, 05:35 PM   #29
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kokoro: holy crud we are legit twins-right down to the sat math and guidance counselors that do nothing!!! haha and i'll bet you're particularly angry because you know your essays had to have stood out, right??? i do not understand it-they're looking to build up their cw ...you'd think they'd jump at the opportunity...

and saugus i hear you, i've been too depressed to leave my house. but ugh we gotta keep moving, and i really need to look at those other apps...
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Old 12-17-2011, 05:43 PM   #30
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@juliamarie Haha. If we do both get into Princeton, we should totally meet up! And yeah, I'm actually supposed to be working on my apps for other colleges but I keep finding myself here...in the Princeton threads. *sigh* I actually have an interview with another college tomorrow, but I'm afraid that I'll just randomly blurt out: "PRINCETOOOOON! *sob*" in the middle of it. x)
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