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Old 10-12-2012, 07:04 PM   #1
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African American SAT Scores

Hi I wanted to know if any students know any African American students that got in with 1800s or 1900s because I have a 1850 my first time but retook and will retake again and I needed to see where my chances lie for the most part. I am also applying for chemical engineering. I will do Early Action if my score raises a great amount, thanks!
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:02 PM   #2
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Yes, I do. Although, the higher the better (obv).

P.S Don't forget about your essays. They're just as important.
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Old 10-13-2012, 04:38 PM   #3
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Okay thanks, I didnt want my SATs to hold me back. Princeton is my dream school but should I even bother applying with scores in the 1800s and 1900s?
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:57 PM   #4
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Standardized testing is only one aspect of the application process. Remember that. And if it's your dream school, why wouldn't you apply?
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Old 10-13-2012, 10:56 PM   #5
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Why wouldn't you apply? What can it hurt? Go for it! You wouldn't want to spend the rest of your life wondering, "what if"? My son almost decided against applying since it felt like such a long shot. He's now enjoying his Princeton freshman year... =)
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:31 AM   #6
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wow you guys are right, I might as well give it a shot. Thanks!
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:26 PM   #7
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Go for it!
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:31 AM   #8
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There is a lot at risk when there is a mismatch, as this article points out:

The Unraveling of Affirmative Action - WSJ.com

We are struggling with the same issue. Even though son is expected to have 2250+ on the SAT, SAT math ii above 750 and 5s in AP Biology, Computer Science, Calculus BC, Physic, English, History etc., we have a concern about his weak elementary and middle school preparation. His SAT score in 7th grade was sub 1200 (M+V+W). He had to undergo serious remedial work in high school to get where he is now. Still we are afraid.
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:11 PM   #9
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he's expected to get all those scores but did he get any of them? A lot of it depends on the student. Taking the hardest courses possible and working as hard as possible will help determine if its a mismatch
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:18 PM   #10
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I know somebody at the school who was recruited and had a similar SAT score and is doing fine. The school provides tutoring if needed. Don't listen to all posters on cc they can be disingenuous.
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:52 PM   #11
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Jlaine,

He took 5 AP courses in junior year:

5* in Comp Sci II
5 in Biology
5 in US History
5 in English Lang
4 in Chemistry

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Pre AP Physics and Pre AP Math

750 math ii SAT subject Test (which he may retake in Dec)



So, he is 3/4 of the way there. He will take the SAT in Nov and SAT Physics in Dec. However, there is reason to be optimistic about his SAT and Physics Test performance since,

He has a 219 on PSAT. (percentile rank equivalent to 2250/ 2260 on SAT). Also, has taken 3 SAT practice tests this year. Scored 2400, 2400, 2380.

In Pre AP Physics he had As both semester last year. He has a 92% in AP Physics this year. So lots of good reasons to think he will get above 700 in Physics SAT Subject too.

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Old 10-15-2012, 06:47 PM   #12
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Princeton is hard. It's hard for most people here, regardless of stats / preferential admission (I'm thinking athletes, legacies too), etc unless you're just a genius. Which most of us aren't. So if you don't want to work really, really hard and you think you might be academically disadvantaged at Princeton, take that into consideration. You know yourself best!

But if you get in here -- chances are that Princeton believes you can succeed. We have something like a 98% four-year graduation rate. (I made that up, but you get the idea.) This isn't Colgate, which was described in that (very interesting!) article. There are plenty of resources here for EVERYONE. There's a pre-frosh summer bootcamp for the less academically strong admits (often athletes! preferential admission is NOT just a race thing...), and a ton of people take advantage of the free 1:1 tutoring, study halls, etc held for most intro classes. I've seen preceptors do 1:1 tutoring session with struggling students. Help is available here.

I really don't think that there are many huge "mismatches" here, except probably for the kids of super-rich donors (if that? haven't met any myself). There are just so many awesome applicants. But I'm no expert.

So go ahead and apply, I'd say.

If you want to check out the typical level of a Princeton course, for the first time this fall Princeton is offering a few on Coursera, although they aren't really representative: https://www.*************/princeton

And good luck!
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:49 PM   #13
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perazziman your son is a beast, dont worry about it. The boy in the article was in the top 20% and it never mentioned AP courses. he's on par with most students, he should be fine. and thanks guys anymore examples or advice?
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:48 PM   #14
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buuuuuuuuuuuump
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:54 PM   #15
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Your chances will be pretty low. if the rest of your application is average — by Princeton standards — you certaintly won't get in.

I really wonder if someone with an 1850 can produce a Princeton Admission-worthy essay, though.
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