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05-07-2008, 08:45 AM
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Your example is completely unrelated to the point you are trying to make about wealth and class, and as a personal anecdote it is hardly convincing evidence of your larger point regarding Princeton boosters.
| It's like you all went to the same debating club too! If you want "convincing evidence", go to the College Search and Selection board and read the threads about Princeton. Read the threads about college selection on the Prinecton board. Count up all the times a Princeton booster suggests that someone should ever do something other than attend Princeton. Count up the times they ever say ANYTHING negative about the place. Then compare it to each and every booster from each and every other college. Let me know the results!
All I can offer you is my gestalt impression with an example or two. My guess is that this impression will ring true with a few peole, and maybe they will think twice next time and be a little more balance in their boosterism.
Anyway, like I said, i think you all should worry a little less about "dispelling the lingering stereotypes." You all defend the place like it's on the verge of collapse! A bunker mentality at the richest (per student! as you all keep saying!) university on earth! | 
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05-07-2008, 08:48 AM
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In my experience Princetonians are too dang earnest to be elitist....
| That's funny! Yes, they seem very earnest don't they! It's amazing how you can get a feel for the character of a college and its students by reading CC. I love reading the Princeton board partly for that reason.
Let me be clear, I have no personal connection with Princeton, and frankly no real interest in the place beyond curiosity based on what I observe on CC. I hope you all get a wonderful education, I hope you all get rich and double the school's endowment and send your kids there too! Please enjoy! | |
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05-07-2008, 02:27 PM
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| Kenf, it's difficult to really take your opinion seriously for a couple of reasons. The slight sarcasm doesn't help: I suggest you post a little more professionally, if you wish for others to hear out your comments.
You comment on how clearly you can get a feel for a college's character through CC? These forums are by no means representative of any student body at any university. These forums are representative of the people most enthusiastic about the college experience, and of course people are going to love their school. Who doesn't love their school? Let's read the forums of some arbitrary "lower tier" university: I think you'll find students quite defensive there as well. It's no matter of elitism if people love their university and defend it to those who attack it, especially those who attack it quite unjustly. You cannot complain about students defending their university when you overtly attack it without any basis of evidence other than mere anecdotal evidence that seems to be held together quite weakly: your example of the linguistics department had nothing to do with privilege and wealth, as Weasel mentioned, nor is that instance any different than what you might find at another university. Again, I'm sure you could find students at a "lower tier" university defending the wonders of their program in x or department in y.
Obviously if you're spending time on the Princeton forums with negative intentions--for whatever reason--you're going to be running into more negative examples, while apparently neglecting or twisting any words of praise. When people praise Princeton, it's wrong and elitist, but when there's one example of a student's faults, this proves representative of Princeton's student body. If a student states how little class distinction exists at Princeton, you condemn this as falseful boasting: I'm not sure why, as there is a strong correlation with the future success of low-income students that attend "elite" universities, and nobody I met at Princeton or online seems to feel disgusted to be in the presence of a financial needer such as myself. Yet one negative example will indicate the elitism and privileged Old Blood mentality that ostensibly courses through the veins of Princeton. You need to approach this without bias.
Honestly, you give off the impression of someone who is, in one way or another, jealous. Perhaps you're trying to make yourself feel better about not going to Princeton. Maybe you couldn't get in. Maybe you could but you decided against it, and need to justify this to yourself. I'm not sure what it is, but you give off that vibe tremendously: why would you spend time criticizing a school--unjustly, no less--otherwise?
I am curious: are you as vindictive against HY as well? Or this is this primarily directed toward Princeton? | |
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05-07-2008, 02:32 PM
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I suggest you post a little more professionally, if you wish for others to hear out your comments.
| Thanks for the advice! I'll try to keep that in mind! | |
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05-07-2008, 02:45 PM
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| Case in point, I suppose.
Is there any reason you seem so hostile about Princeton and this discussion?
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05-07-2008, 03:04 PM
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Is there any reason you seem so hostile about Princeton and this discussion?
| The thing is, I'm not hostile at all. I seriously have no connection with Princeton whatsoever and no ill-will against the place whatsoever. I just think that Princeton boosters go overboard. Like I said, that's my experience from reading their posts on CC. I think in their zealotry they aren't being as helpful as they could be. | |
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05-07-2008, 05:59 PM
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| I haven't seen this trend kenf1234 is talking about.
I definitely don't think Princeton can be isolated for its "zealotry" | |
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05-07-2008, 06:07 PM
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| I have...
I'm surprised you haven't ivanadoeslimbo seeing as how... | 
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05-08-2008, 12:10 PM
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| I hope so because I am a ninth-generation legacy and I want to go to Princeton lol | |
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05-08-2008, 12:16 PM
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| You joke but... | |
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05-08-2008, 12:24 PM
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| I'm not joking................... | |
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05-08-2008, 02:44 PM
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| Then you're pretty much in. | |
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05-08-2008, 07:15 PM
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| I don't understand what 08seniors08 meant by, "I'm surprised you haven't ivanadoeslimbo seeing as how..."
Seeing as how... what?
Can somebody fill me in? | |
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05-08-2008, 07:26 PM
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| Ivanadoeslimbo-
Maybe because you said:
"I'm really excited to go to Princeton this fall and see how the Class of 2012 has turned out!
(Obviousy, it's going to be pretty awesome...)"
I have no qualms with this post, but the fact that you posted it on the Wait-List thread where people are nervous (including 08seniors08) about getting in, seems sort of... mean, at the VERY least.
I'm surprised someone would do this... | |
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05-08-2008, 07:29 PM
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| I didn't even think about it like that... People had just posted that they had gotten in off the waitlist, and I was just trying to feel friendly and welcoming.
I didn't want anybody to feel left out of the class of 2012 because they got accepted later on in the game, so i was really just not thinking and wanted to be friendly.
ugh i feel like such an a**hole now. | |
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