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  • Re: Got a random Acceptance Letter from California Northstate University for BSMD program?

    A couple of small clarifications---

    This is CNU's second year of operation, not first. CNU's first class of students began in fall 2015.

    Cal Northstate in only provisionally accredited by the LCME. After a site visit in Nov 2016, the LCME found substantial issues that could impact the quality of education the students receive, placed CNU on written warning and withheld approval for moving CNU to the next step of the accreditation process. This is an unprecedented action on the part of LCME.

    This stall in the accrediting process is entirely separate from the fact of CNU administration refuses to apply for the federal student loan program. This means that CNU student are not eligible for federal student loans or for various state & federal scholarship programs such as HPSP and NHSC.
  • Re: Education as a pre-med major???

    It's going to be difficult to combine an elementary education major with pre-med course requirements especially once you add in the required classroom observation experiences/practicums and student teaching.

    If you're interested in being a high school biology teacher, then pre-med becomes more feasible because at least you have some crossover with coursework requirements. Just makes sure the science classes you take are the same science courses that the science majors take. Also you'll need to plan to apply to med school only after you graduate because your senior year will be entirely consumed by classroom practicums and student teaching. You won't have time to apply to med school or do med school interviews.

    However, if you want to be high school bio teacher, you don't necessarily need to be a secondary ed major. You can major in bio (or chem or neuroscience or whatever) and----

    1) teach at a private or charter school--which do not require a state teaching certificate

    2) get a teaching job at public school on a certification waiver--which means you're hired under the condition that you are or will be concurrently taking coursework towards fulfilling your state teaching certification while you are teaching

    3) enroll in a post-grad MAT program to earn your teaching certification AND your Master's at the same time

    You should also be aware that teacher certification is state-dependent. Just because you are certified in one state does not mean you'll be certified in another. (It's an issue. I held valid teaching certificates for NY, CA, TX , PA and IL and when I moved to where I live now, but my credentials didn't meet the certification requirements of my new state. I had to take additional classes and retake some classes i had already taken. For example, I had a 2 credit "reading in the subject area" class but the state required a 3 credit "reading in the subject area" class. I also had to take a state history class, even though I was not a history teacher. )

    Teacher certification is picky and detailed. Unless you attend a college in the same state where you end up teaching, you will almost always have to go back and take additional coursework to get certified.

    You also need to be aware that there is huge glut of failed pre-meds who end up as high school bio and chemistry teachers so there are no guarantees that having a sec education degree with a bio/chem endorsement is going to get you a teaching job if you don't get into med school.

    P.S. If you want to major in a field that is more likely to get a you a teaching job--major in math or physics. There's a enormous shortage of qualified middle and high school math teachers.
  • Re: "Ranking Order" of Pre-Med Activities?

    AAMC surveys med school admission offices and asks them to rank ECs, academic metrics, demographics and other information--

    See p. 5 for ranking table (high, medium, low importance) of results

    Using MCAT Data in 2018 Medical student Selection
  • Re: Breakfast casserole, brunch ideas.

    Oh and I'm intrigued about the green chili sauce. I've never had it, is it easy to make?

    New Mexican green chile sauce is very easy to make and can be made ahead of time and frozen. The hardest part is getting the green chiles. (Unless you live in New Mexico)

    Hatch green chiles are preferred, but Anaheims will do if that's all you can get.

    Here local suppliers will roast your chile for you. I buy a 35 pound gunny sack and have it roasted for me every fall.

    You can order roasted & frozen green chile here:



    I like the Big Jims and Bueno's Autumn Roast, but YMMV.

    1) Blister ~20-25 green chiles all over on a BBQ grill or under a broiler. Stack blistered chiles on a plate/platter and cover with a damp towel. (Or place in a plastic bag.) Let them cool. Peel (the skins will slip right off ) & pull or cut off stem. Remove seeds if you want the chile to be less hot. (TIP: wear plastic gloves when peeling and seeding chiles. If you use your bare hands be sure to keep your fingers away from eyes and all mucus membranes until you've washed your hands very thoroughly with soap. Every year people end up in the ER because they peeled chiles bare handed then touched their eyes, nose or genitals.) Roughly chop peeled chiles.

    OR Use ~2lbs of frozen & chopped green chile. (About 2-3 cups)

    2) In a large saucepan, heat a 2-4 of tbsp of oil. Saute 1 large chopped onion and 2-3 cloves of minced garlic until softened and translucent.

    3) Add 2 tbsp of masa harina or flour to onions/garlic and cook about a minute to make a white roux.

    4) Add chiles to pot. Add 1 tsp salt, 1/2 tsp Mexican oregano, 1/4 tsp cumin

    5) Add 2 cups of water or vegetable or chicken broth. Cook over medium high heat until slightly thickened.

    Makes about 1.5-2 qts of green chile sauce.

    You can freeze the chiles immediately after blistering and thaw whenever you're ready to use them. They even easier to peel after freezing.

    Trader Joes sells canned NM green chiles, but they are only fair substitute for the real thing.
  • Re: Can I donate my body to more than one orgaqnization?

    A whole body (cadaver) donation must be completely intact. Organs cannot be removed from the body prior to the cadaver's use by students in anatomy lab. Since students remove and subsequently dissect all of the internal organs (including the brain) during anatomy lab, there aren't any intact internal organs left to donate for further use at the end of anatomy lab. (At our state school, other health profession students--PT, OT, nursing, EMT, dental hygiene--have subsequent use of the cadaver once the med/PA students have finished dissecting. The cadaver is then prosected by an anatomy instructor so these students can observe & study the gross physical structures of the human body.) At the end of anatomy lab, the cadaver is cremated and the cremains returned to the family.

    The skeleton might still be useable post-anatomy lab. Medical schools generally don't need donated skeletons, although some college anthropology departments will accept skeleton donations if they teach human osteology.