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  • Re: Residency comes next

    Just got back from the White Coat ceremony at Ds' school. My 3rd go-round. (Twice as a parent to a new MS1.) D2 was one of 3 featured speakers (and only med student) at the ceremony. I met 3 of her mentors/preceptors/advisors, including the Dean who is writing D2's Dean's Letter. Every one of them had wonderful things to say to me about what a caring & impactful doctor D2 is going to make and how much they will miss her when she graduates.

    It was very reassuring to hear so many Deans speak of D2 in such glowing terms, knowing they appreciate her for the dedicated and unique individual she is.
  • Re: How Can I Get Into John Hopkins Medical School?

    Selection bias
    Selection bias is the bias introduced by the selection of individuals, groups or data for analysis in such a way that proper randomization is not achieved, thereby ensuring that the sample obtained is not representative of the population intended to be analyzed. It is sometimes referred to as the selection effect.

    It means compared to bio and physical science majors, very few math majors and very few humanities majors apply to med school. Med school is not a typical career path for a philosophy or a statistics major making those who do choose to apply a strongly self-selected group.

  • Re: How Can I Get Into John Hopkins Medical School?


    Stats for JHU Class starting 2016

    Top grades (average GPA 3.88)
    Top MCAT score (average 36, old scale; 519, new scale)
    Exceptional ECs and LORs
    Significant research (1/5 of matriculants hold PhDs)

    HMS --

    Class profile--https://hms.harvard.edu/about-hms/deans-corner/deans-report-2016-2017/hms-student-profiles

    Again, top grades, top MCAT scores, exceptional ECs/achievements, significant research.


    In general medical schools do not care what your undergrad major is so long as you have excelled in the pre-requisite classes.

    Majors that seem to have above expected success in med school applications: mathematics & statistics, and philosophy/humanities.

    See: https://www.aamc.org/download/321496/data/factstablea17.pdf

    (However, be aware that there may be significant selection bias involved in the data.)

    FWIW, both my daughters went to med school. (Neither was a "typical pre med" bio or chem major.) Their classmates had majors ranging from forestry to theology to computer science to music performance. But adcomms are not selecting for diversity of majors in their admitted classes, they are selecting for the best potential doctors they can find.

    Here's what medical schools are looking for in applicants: (posted by an admission officer)
    We look for a person who is personable and at ease and perhaps even friendly, upbeat and who has some enthusiasm/passion for something they're asked about. We look for someone who can interpret social cues and respond accordingly.
    We look for applicants who can communicate clearly in English and who have the ability to describe complex ideas and systems in a way that could be easily understood by a lay person.
    We look for applicants who can demonstrate a familiarity with health care settings and the role of the physician and who are realistic about the practice of medicine in the 21st century.
    We look for applicants who are curious and who have demonstrated this interest in learning more about the world through research and who can describe this research in ways that demonstrate their passion for investigation. (very research oriented school)
    We look for applicants who care about people in need and who have demonstrated this by their community service and who can talk about it in a way that demonstrates that they care about people and not just as a box-check.
    We look for applicants who are resilient and who can demonstrate an ability to bounce back from disappointment or failure.
    We look for applicants who are self-reflective and who are able to identify their own areas of improvement.
    We look for applicants who are team players and who work well with others and are respectful of others.

    Every interviewer asks him/herself the same basic question about each candidate they interview: Can I see this person treating my elderly mother? My sick child?


    Interviews vary a great deal. It depends on the individual interviewer--who are all volunteers and may include faculty, administrators, practicing physicians from the community, retired med school alumni and current students. Some interviews are conversational, friendly and straight-forward; some are stressful and adversarial. Some are short & perfunctory; some are very long & involved. (D1 had an interview that went on for over 3 hours.)
  • Re: 2017-18 Medical School Applicants and Their Parents


    Sometimes one of those "low yield" schools are a reasonable risk. D1 got 1 of her 2 acceptances from one of the Philly schools. D2's BFF got 1 of her 2 acceptances from one of the DC schools.

    Someone has to get accepted.
  • Re: Northeastern for pre-med?

    @thumper1 has it right.

    Minimize undergrad debt if your student is planning on applying to med school. Prestige of undergrad is only of minor importance for a med school application. GPA, MCAT and ECs are all much, much more important. Major is not important for med school applicants--only that they have successfully completed the pre-reqs with strong grades.

    Internships and gap years are totally different w/r/t med school applicants.

    Internships are jobs--these are of minimal value to med school applicants unless the internship is in a medically related position where there is direct patient contact.

    A gap year is year (or more) delay taken after college before or while being the process of applying to medical school. Students take gap years for variety of reasons, including just wanting a break from academics, to improve ECs, to earn money to pay down undergrad loans/finance the cost of applying to med school (which can cost as much a $10,000) or to allow senior year grades to be included in GPA calculations.

    About 1/3 of traditional med school applicants take a gap year. It's not universal.