I was accepted to Saint Joe's EA and I am trying to decide whether or not I am going. I want to go to Medical School, and I want to know the strength of St. Joe's in the sciences/pre-med. I know it is mainly known as a business school, any advice regarding the sciences would be great. Any info on the McNulty scholars program would be great too.
Be realistic about your abilities. What are your stats? If you have an SAT score in the middle 50% of students at St. Joseph's (1030-1210), you probably don't have the aptitude for medical school. If that is the case and you are interested in the medical profession, consider nursing schools.
St. Joe's probably sends a few grads to medical school but so does every school. Probably most go to osteopathic. If your scores are above the St. Joe range, you have better options.
I would go to the Saint Joe's website - Saint Joseph's University | Philadelphia, PA and type in mcnulty scholars in the search box. It will take you to a webpage on that program with lots of information & application process.
Recently visited St Joe's. Students have to meet certain criteria established by St. Joe's before they can apply for med school (sort of a pre-qualification). At the meeting I attended, they said their med school acceptance rate is 86%.
@ RisingChemist: I believe your statements are ludicrous, erroneous, and not necessary. I received a 1050 on my SAT's and know I will be able to thrive in my pre-med courses and be accepted into medical school. There's no saying that a person who received a 2400 on their SAT's would be a better medical student than I would be. I DO have the aptitude for medical school.
@ medchick93: I would say that SJU is a strong science school. I was quite impressed when I visited a week ago. Their pre-med path and required classes seem to be quite rigorous. Any Jesuit university is going to be highly regarded because of their curriculum and professors. They have plentiful amounts of labs, including one that contained very rare turtles they were researching!
Alex: I am giving you good advice but you dont have to take it. With a 1050 you simply dont have the aptitude to get into medical school. You will not even get into one of those D.O. programs You will spend time trying only to either switch majors or going back to school for nursing or some other field. I am not saying this to be mean, I just think you need to be realistic.
@RisingChemist: How about we use correct grammar? I am being quite realistic. I've been tested in many other ways and have scored in the top 99% NATIONALLY. I'm part of the National Society for the Gifted and Talented. I'm graduating high school one year early with TWELVE college credits I accumulated during my JUNIOR year of high school. I have enough, if not more, aptitude to not only get in but succeed in medical school. You're an ignorant human being. There are people that DON'T TEST WELL. Why do you think certain colleges don't even require SAT scores (Smith College). SAT's are not the be-all and end-all.
Let's discuss this in four years. You do know that your MCAT score is going to be a key factor in whether you are admitted to medical school.
Dont be offended. Think about all of those poor, tone deaf kids that audition for American Idol. They embarass themselves on t.v. while everyone but them knows they lack the required talent. Those kids would have been better off if someone had just told them they lacked the aptitude. I am telling you for your benefit.
BTW, I am not saying that you arent smart. What I am saying is that you do not have the academic aptitude to beat out the other applicants in the very competitive process of gaining admission to medical school.
@RisingChemist: I haven't visited this site in a few weeks, and I am glad...it seems to have taken a negative turn since my initial post. May I ask what your background is? Did you apply to med school (and if so, were you accepted/rejected)? I have higher test scores than the average SJU student (32 ACT or about 1450/1600 SAT) but fell in love with the school and the support they offer their student athletes. I also received a tremendous financial incentive to attend the school, and (perhaps presumptiously), will be saving more money for my med school fund. I attended the pre-med advising session at SJU a few weeks ago and came away very impressed and comfortable in my decision. @alexpappas13, excited to see you on campus next year! (I think we are already facebook friends
Just throwing out a question to everyone, do you think it is better to go to a lesser-ranked school and graduate at the top of your class or go to a higher ranked school and end up in the middle of the pack (or the bottom)? Thanks for all of your responses so far!
@medchick93: I'm sorry about the negativity. I haven't frequented this website in a while. I left this conversation at a point where I knew I was not going to get anywhere. What's your name?! We probably are friends I can't wait to see you on campus in a couple months! I'm so excited to be pre-med at SJU. Their program is amazing.
Concerning your question, I believe it is ALWAYS better to finish at the top of your class at a lesser-ranked school than to be just mediocre in stance at a more highly regarded school.
@RisingChemist: How does your SAT correspond to your MCAT scores? Im sure that there are Doctors who did not do well on their SATs and still got into med school. It just seems like a really subjective statement.
@the post: I really don't know about S.J.U but the school that I'm attending in the fall the University of Scranton has a really good pre med program. An average of 80% of their students who applied got into at least one med school. I'm in the program now the only problem is that I received no aid what so ever making me pay close to full price (48,000). I'm in a very difficult situation where what if i don't get into med school and I come out of college with all this dept. So its just something to think about. Also good back up plains if you dont get into med school are, P.A programs, D.O programs, or even nursing. So the question is do you really want to spend 48,000$ on an undergraduate education for the above?