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Old 07-18-2012, 04:03 PM   #16
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2100 studied a lot, I started with quite a low score
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:18 PM   #17
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2400 with studying this old Barron's, Dr. Chung, and collegeboard blue book tests.
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:45 PM   #18
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2090 (750m 630 cr 710w) no studying, and then 2070 (690m 690cr 690w) after an online SAT prep course...
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:36 PM   #19
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1900 with little studying
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:53 PM   #20
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@cferro00 your math score went way down after the prep course. Was the course worth it?
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:50 PM   #21
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Ameliab12, congrats on you fantastic score! However, it is no longer true that the SAT is an aptitude test. The old one(prior to a few yrs ago--6 or 7?- when they took out the analogies and made a few other changes) was more of an aptitude test. Now it really is more of an achievement test, as is the ACT. See the book "Admission Matters" by Sally Springer ; it discusses this. Have you studied for the ACT or taken it yet? If so, you would see how similar the two are. Of course, there are little differences (ie whether guessing hurts you or not; small differences in the reading format, etc), but they are both achievement tests. If you have not takent the ACT, I can tell you that the gifted student counselors and guidance counselors around here highly suggest taking both. Some students find that they excel more on one that the other.

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Old 07-20-2012, 02:46 PM   #22
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I got the exact equivalent score on the ACT the one time I took it, which further strengthened my belief that innate ability yields the most "accurate" score.
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Old 07-21-2012, 02:45 PM   #23
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If aptitude is a measure of vocab and grammar knowledge, then I guess the SAT could be considered an aptitude test.
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Old 07-21-2012, 02:54 PM   #24
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2120 (620CR, 700M, 800W (11E)) with completing the entire Blue Book and one practice test. Only got 10 points higher than the practice test.
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Old 07-21-2012, 02:59 PM   #25
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2110 (760 CR, 700 Math, 650 Writing). With lots of studying and prep classes though...
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Old 07-21-2012, 03:01 PM   #26
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And ameliab12, some of us aren't as naturally bright as you I say that studying in advance is definitely important, it can't hurt your score!
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Old 07-22-2012, 11:32 AM   #27
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@ameliab12

You are either just too proud of yourself or just don't know much about the SAT. The SAT is obviously not an aptitude test. This is the reason why SAT no longer stands for everything. The SAT is a test that is very "studiable" and those who study a lot can do very well on. That being said, there are some kids that can do very well on the SAT (like you) without studying. This does not mean they are necessarily smart; rather it means they did well on one test on a given day.

If the SAT were really an aptitude test then it would likely be a good predictor of future college success. But is isn't. At best, it predicts very minimally freshman year college grades. But after that, the SAT means just as little with regards to sophomore, junior, and senior grades as that score on you first grade spelling test did.

Please, @ameliab12, don't make ridiculous claims to try to make yourself feel better and smarter. Look at the research. Look at why many colleges are now not requiring the SAT 1 to be submitted. The SAT is not an aptitude test. It does not measure intelligence or inherent aptitude. If you really want to label the SAT, many would call it a wealth test. The richer people who can afford to go to private tutors since middle school generally do better. There are still, though, people like you who can do well without studying. Good job. You did well on that one test. Now, you can stop trying to make yourself sound smarter and focus on the hundreds of other tests you will take in your future. I don't suppose you would say the one or two tests you might fail are measures of aptitude.
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Old 07-22-2012, 12:55 PM   #28
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bllbb6, you need to calm down. First off, I see "I'm a strong believer...", "I think...", "Maybe...", and "I think..." in ameliab12's posts. No attacks, nothing rude, and certainly nothing that would warrant such a rude response. I encourage you to take a look at http://www.nacacnet.org/research/res...ssionPaper.pdf, specifically page 14 where the conclusions are presented:

Coaching has a positive effect on SAT performance, but the magnitude of the effect is small.
• The effect of coaching is larger on the math section of the exam (10–20 points) than it is for the critical
reading section (5–10 points).
• There is mixed evidence with respect to the effect of coaching on ACT performance. Only two studies have
been conducted. The most recent evidence indicates that only private tutoring has a small effect of .4
points on the math section of the exam.

Also take a look at http://www.psychologicalscience.org/pdf/ps/frey.pdf where a 0.483 correlation between g and SAT score were found.
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Old 07-22-2012, 01:03 PM   #29
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The Sat has a .5 correlation to ur success in college (not very high)

A GPA has about a .7 or .8 correlation with success in college (a lot more reliable)
I learned this in psychology.
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Old 07-23-2012, 12:00 AM   #30
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@chanely: I've never heard of that before. Do you have some sort of source? Not that I don't believe you (to be honest it would make sense), but I am curious to read more.

Back on topic: 2250, with a decent amount of studying and one massive cold which knocked me down a few notches.
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