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10-08-2012, 04:41 PM
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#31 | | Member
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Perazziman, I am SO sorry. That is terrible. When my son registered for the 10/6 SAT we saw this photo thing. I called and spoke w/ the college Board rep, and she said that it was not absolutely necessary until 2013 (I think she said January), but that she suggested that I do it. So I took a photo and uploaded it. Then I was a little nervous that they might not consider it "perfect", so I called College Board again and asked them if they could look at the photo (since it was in the computer registration) and tell me if it "qualified". Here is the bizarre response I got" "We aren't allowed to make that assessment over the phone, but if you feel comfortable that it fulfills the rules we have posted online, then go with it." I felt so uneasy and could not understand why they wouldn't just tell me yes or no (since it was very clear on the computer screen; looked identical to how it looked on the Admission Ticket). They did not give him any grief at the Test Center, but I did think that the whole thing was strange. I am so sorry for you and your son.
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10-09-2012, 03:00 AM
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#32 | | Member
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Your son can still do his Subject Test in November and ACT as well in November, he'll still make it in time for RD with the exception of ED of course.
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10-09-2012, 04:10 AM
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#33 | | Senior Member
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Just got a bs email from College Board (agent) about tickets with photos that do not meet their guidelines are not allowed to take the test.
The tone suggests, an investigation. Possibly trying to verify huge jumps in scores? So, I guess they found their excuse. It is just a hunch, but I would not be surprised if they are trying to figure out how
SAT~1200 in 2008 (Duke TIP) went to PSAT 173 in 2010 to a PSAT 219 in 2011. lol I think that is about a 1000 point move in three years.
All I can say is wait until you see his SAT score in 2012. lol.
Could that be it?
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10-09-2012, 04:24 AM
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#34 | | New Member
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Wow, that really sucks. I was actually laughed at (jokingly) by friends for uploading a photo onto my admissions ticket, and all of the people without photos on their tickets got in fine for my testing center, no hassle, nothing.
No, it shouldn't be the score jump (though that is an awesome score increase!) I think that if they usually think there's some sort of discrepancy or cheating, they withhold the score and then start an investigation (if they "found" some sort of "cheating," whether true or not, best of luck to you). It's usually dealt with before they actually release the scores to you.
I think it really probably was just College Board reps saying different things about their new photo policy. Which is strange, because it's not even an official policy yet.
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10-09-2012, 09:47 AM
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#35 | | Super Moderator
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He might have slept through the DukeTip.
However, 173 to 219 is a really big jump. Most people i know in this batch seemed to average only about 20-25 points from 10th to 11th with a good bit of hardwork.
None of this has anything to do with their refusal to allow him to take the SAT test. PSAT is administered by the school and SAT by collegeboard. They are separate tests and not comparable for cheating evaluations.
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10-09-2012, 11:08 AM
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#36 | | Junior Member
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My daughter said at her school many students were turned away because their drivers license included a middle initial and the SAT registration did not have the initial on it. Its a shame since the Oct test is usually the last test students take.
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10-09-2012, 12:00 PM
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#37 | | Senior Member
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texaspg,
BTW there is also a corresponding 2010 SAT score, it is ~900 points higher than the 2008 Duke U TIP score. I hope you are right and I am just jumping the gun at this point.
Yeah, he is a bit of a late bloomer, as the PSAT shows. His AP and SAT Subject Test scores are showing similar improvements compared to his freshman and sophomore year grades.
Last edited by perazziman; 10-09-2012 at 12:09 PM.
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10-09-2012, 12:07 PM
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#38 | | Member
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There is a large maturity difference between a 12 year old taking a Duke TIP test and a high school junior not to mention puberty as well. A lot of growing up and brain maturation happens in those three years- especially in boys who go through it later than girls.
I am so sorry about this and hope more honest kids don't pay the price for the few dishonest ones. Thank you for reporting the middle initial. Students need to be aware of this.
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10-09-2012, 01:36 PM
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#39 | | Junior Member
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College board should be embarrased.
Can anyone explain to me how having a photo on your ticket helps stop cheating ? If I wanted to cheat uploading the picture to CB is the least of my worries. I either need to have my ID say someone elses name or convince them another persons ID is mine. In that situation being able to upload the picture of my choice would HELP me cheat because it might make the proctor think the ticket was some sort of official ID.
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10-09-2012, 01:40 PM
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#40 | | Senior Member
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The thing with middle initials is nuts--what, they think you're impersonating a person with an almost identical name?
I remember when I needed to transfer my driver's license from NY to Maryland, they made me bring in another document that proved that my middle initial stood for what I said it did. My name is not all that common--something like, maybe, "Norbert J. Fensterbenster." I asked them if they thought I might be impersonating some other Norbert J. Fensterbenster with a different middle name? It didn't matter, they had to have proof.
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10-09-2012, 02:49 PM
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#41 | | Junior Member
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I think the most infuriating thing here is the apparent lack of consistency in how proctors are deciding what is acceptable. If he had gone to another testing site, would he have had the same problem?
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10-10-2012, 09:51 AM
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#42 | | New Member
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10-10-2012, 09:59 AM
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#43 | | Senior Member
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I think it is one of those things that got screwed up in this transition period. Do complain and ask your school to also file a complaint.
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10-10-2012, 10:19 AM
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#44 | | Super Moderator
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perazziman - if your son has a score in 2100 in 2010, then the PSAT score is the one out of the norm. He must have slept through that. He seems to have underperformed on his PSAT in 2010.
Any reason he did not finish these tests in summer if he has been performing so well?
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10-10-2012, 10:56 AM
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#45 | | Junior Member
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After reading this post I was worried my picture would be "unacceptable" for the Nov. SAT test date so I called collegeboard. What they're saying is even though the photo is not required until next year, if you uploaded a photo, it is required for YOU. I think your son shouldve been able to take the test and I think Collegeboard should do a special test date for you son! It's ridiculous!!!
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