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05-01-2008, 09:41 AM
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#16 | | Member
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| A problem that asks you to do f(g(h(x))) may be tedious, but it's hardly a creative work that merits copyright. |
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05-01-2008, 11:37 AM
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#17 | | Senior Member
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A problem that asks you to do f(g(h(x))) may be tedious, but it's hardly a creative work that merits copyright.
| Why is something that is hardly creative worth ... copying and stealing? If it were that easy to reproduce SAT questions that are relevant and accurate, why did KD not use her millions of income to develop her own sets of material instead of ignoring basic copyright laws and allowing or forcing her employees to infringe on someone else's intellectual properties.
The fact that something is easy to steal does not make it less of a crime. The settlement indicates that KD understands that ... now.
Let's hope that someone makes sure that the $400,000 worth of services dedicated to low-income students gets handled properly. |
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05-01-2008, 12:55 PM
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#18 | | Member
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| xiggi, yes they probably need to go on campus at some of the schools. Saying, "Hey low income kids, feel free to come out to this strip center in Colleyville" (to which there is no public transportation) probably won't be very helpful.
I keep stressing that it was a copyright infringement suit because the publicity surrounding the CB's threat to cancel scores made it sound like KD had somehow given the kids answer sheets or had otherwise somehow facilitated cheating. |
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05-01-2008, 08:31 PM
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#19 | | New Member
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| Missypie...KDCP came pretty close to your definition of cheating, according to the College Board's allegations. The "PVA" test (which, if your student took classes at KDCP since 2006 summer, check their binder because you've got it in your possession right now...DT2...we looked) was a "live" test, meaning that the College Board had not allowed it to be distributed. To create a test takes monumental effort -- and though some of you might think equations aren't a demonstration of "creativity," go ahead and spend a few hours trying to write Critical Reading questions and see how diifficult it is. It's hard, and requires a lot of time and money, and therefore SHOULD be protected by copyright.
Because of the huge amount of time and money it takes for College Board to create these tests, they don't always release their tests, but instead reuse some of the problems in later years. Somehow, someway, KDCP allegedly got a copy of this "live" test and distributed it to all of its students (along with answers!). If the College Board had reused these problems later on, KDCP students would have had a HUGE HUGE advantage on this test, and that's just not fair. So, according to CB's allegations (which, if they weren't true, would have opened CB up to a huge slander lawsuit), what KDCP has done is tantamount to giving thousands of students a live test with answers.
That, along with the live PSAT that KDCP allegedly obtained well before students were done testing, is the reason why CB threatened to cancel scores. I doubt CB would threaten such a thing lightly. In my opinion, they had good cause -- and excellent evidence -- to back up their allegations. |
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05-01-2008, 09:05 PM
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#20 | | Member
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| Ruining people's lives, taking lots of money, "non-profit", guarding their copyright like crazy...
Scientology and the College Board have a lot of parallels. |
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05-01-2008, 11:46 PM
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#21 | | Member
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| Oh that changes EVERYTHING.
I thought the company had been simply using past tests.
Now I'm definitely sympathising with College Board here, as much as I detest them on other occasions. |
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05-03-2008, 01:08 AM
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#22 | | Senior Member
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| I didn't think this was such a big deal. My classmate works for this company too and when he told us about it, he made it out to be sort of a joke. I guess it was really serious. =/ |
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05-04-2008, 02:08 PM
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#23 | | Junior Member
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| She sits for all the exams and then pays to get them in the mail, just like we do. She apparently also said that a lot of them she actually bought from the CB when they used to sell them for use, before 2005(?, I think). After they stopped selling them, they told everyone they had to stop using the ones they had already bought. She believed that she paid for them rightfully and therefore could still use them. Later, the CB issued a complaint and she stopped at that time. But this PSAT thing brought the CB back at her door. Don't quote me exactly, but that was the gist of it months ago. |
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